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Thatcher: Britain must start to quit EU
UK Times via Drudge ^ | 18 Mar 2002 | Philip Webster

Posted on 03/17/2002 5:24:45 PM PST by flamefront

THE time has come for Britain to start pulling out of the European Union, according to Baroness Thatcher. She damns the EU as ?fundamentally unreformable?.

The former Prime Minister says in her new book, serialised in The Times, that most of the problems the world has faced, including Nazism and Marxism, have come from mainland Europe. Enoch Powell had been right when he gave warning in the 1970s that entry to the Common Market involved an unacceptable loss of sovereignty.

Lady Thatcher calls for renegotiation of Britains terms of EU membership to enable it to leave the common agricultural and fisheries policies, the common foreign and security policy, and to reassert domestic control over trade policy. She also suggests joining the North Atlantic Free Trade Agreement, a decision that would be seen as incompatible with EU membership.

Although she does not say it in so many words, such moves would mean that Britain was no longer effectively in the EU. In any event the demands, which she urges an incoming Tory government to make as a preliminary step, would be refused by the rest of the EU, leaving Britain no alternative but to quit.

She writes in Statecraft: "It is frequently said to be unthinkable that Britain should leave the European Union. But the avoidance of thought about this is a poor substitute for judgment."

Lady Thatcher's views will embarrass Iain Duncan Smith after a period in which the Tory leader has engineered a party truce on Europe and at a time when he is preparing to modernise his party's appeal.

While he is poised today to attack Tony Blair over the outcome of the Barcelona summit, the Prime Minister is certain to use the Commons exchanges to challenge him to disavow Lady Thatcher. Her remarks will be a godsend to a Government struggling to recover from accusations of sleaze and lack of delivery over public service reform.

Mr Duncan Smith was always one of Lady Thatcher's strongest supporters, and there are several members of the Shadow Cabinet, such as Bernard Jenkin, John Whittingdale, John Bercow and Tim Collins, who would privately agree with much of what she says. As many as 30 Tory MPs would probably privately support a "withdrawalist" line.

Mr Duncan Smith has successfully urged his colleagues to speak less about Europe and to concentrate on domestic issues. While making plain that the Tories would campaign against the euro if there was a referendum, he has taken the sting out of the debate by saying that MPs would be free to campaign in the opposite camp if they wished.

Mr Duncan Smith's spokesman said of Lady Thatchers remarks last night: "Naturally relations between Iain and Lady Thatcher are close and cordial and she has done us the courtesy of sending an advance copy of the book. We will not comment directly on the book but we will read it with interest.

"Iain's position on Europe was summed up in an article this weekend.

He said: "We must keep our currency. It is the only way we can be masters of our own taxes, mortgage rates and spending on our schools and hospitals. I will never allow EU membership to mean Britain loses control over its own destiny. While I lead the Conservatives I will always fight to keep the pound."

Lady Thatcher stops short of calling for a total withdrawal from Europe, preferring to retain some existing arrangements while opting out of "present and future mechanisms which harm our interests or restrict our freedom of action".

This might not be as difficult as it sounds because the "blunt truth is that the rest of the European Union needs us more than we need them."

Britain had substantial advantages in any renegotiation because it was a substantial net importer from the rest of the EU, a substantial contributor to the CAP, its fish stocks were extremely important to other countries, and it remained a global power.

She goes on: "Against this background we should have every confidence that we can achieve a sensible framework within which to defend and pursue our interest while having co-operative relations with the European countries.

"The preliminary step, I believe, should be for an incoming Conservative government to declare publicly that it seeks fundamental renegotiation of Britain's terms of EU membership. The objectives would be a withdrawal from the CAP, an end to our adherence to the common fisheries policy, withdrawal from all the entanglements of a common foreign and security policy and a reassertion of control of our trade policy."

 Lady Thatcher's coolness towards Europe is legendary, but her book takes it to a new intensity.

"During my lifetime most of the problems the world has faced have come, in one fashion or another, from mainland Europe, and the solutions from outside it," she writes.

"That generalisation is clearly true of the Second World War. Nazism was, after all, a European ideology, the Third Reich an attempt at European domination.



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About time we see more retreat from futile globalism.
1 posted on 03/17/2002 5:24:46 PM PST by flamefront
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To: flamefront
I will be buying her book. I find it funny that the paper did not inlucde marxism as an evil of europe. Many russians do consider themselfs part of europe and not asia. Well those in moscow might not but that is another story. :)
2 posted on 03/17/2002 5:28:38 PM PST by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
Bump. No Thatcher fans on tonight?
3 posted on 03/17/2002 5:30:48 PM PST by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: flamefront
Futile or feudal? Both words apply here.
4 posted on 03/17/2002 5:30:57 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: flamefront
What a gal! God bless Maggie. The Limeys need to listent to her.
5 posted on 03/17/2002 5:31:14 PM PST by keithtoo
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To: flamefront
Too bad that Thatcher's counterpart in the United States, Ronald Reagan, is too sick to write a similar move urging the United States to get out of the United Nations.
6 posted on 03/17/2002 5:32:47 PM PST by Frohickey
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To: flamefront
Thatcher is a great lady who speaks the obvious truth, but those words will fall on deaf ears.
7 posted on 03/17/2002 5:34:12 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
No Thatcher fans on tonight?

Maggie doesn't think British citizens ought to be able to own guns

In fact she doesn't think American citizens shoukld be allowed either
She had the gaul to give a speech to American HS Students and tell them the 2nd amendment was obsolete and didn't mean what it said

So no I am not that big a fan
8 posted on 03/17/2002 5:34:26 PM PST by uncbob
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Bump for Thatcher.

But isn't Ian Duncan Smith the other Queen of England, or am I thinking of another Tory leader?

9 posted on 03/17/2002 5:35:25 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: flamefront
Poor little England, so far away from God and Jesus Christ, and so CLOSE to Europe!

If only the Atlantic were more narrow, and the Channel wider!

10 posted on 03/17/2002 5:37:05 PM PST by crystalk
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To: uncbob
Nobody's perfect I guess.
11 posted on 03/17/2002 5:43:08 PM PST by weikel
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To: flamefront
Personally, if you let the people vote on it, there's no way they'd join the EU. It'd be a cold day in hell before Britain gives up the Pound. The Franc is a currency. The Deutchmark is a currency. The Pound is an historical institution.
12 posted on 03/17/2002 5:44:06 PM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: flamefront
woo hoo!! Thatcher rocks!
13 posted on 03/17/2002 5:45:17 PM PST by widgysoft
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To: flamefront
Good for her. Britain was a great ally when she was PM (they're ok now too). She and Reagan were unbeatable.
14 posted on 03/17/2002 5:46:05 PM PST by rintense
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
I find it funny that the paper did not inlucde marxism as an evil of europe.

They did.

The former Prime Minister says in her new book, serialised in The Times, that most of the problems the world has faced, including Nazism and Marxism, have come from mainland Europe.

15 posted on 03/17/2002 5:46:16 PM PST by aculeus
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To: flamefront
I have serious doubts whether Britain will follow her advice. From what I can see, Britain is hellbent on a course to full socialism, which is the official religion of Europe.
16 posted on 03/17/2002 5:47:28 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: flamefront
I wondered how long it would take the independent Brits to abandon the European Union.
17 posted on 03/17/2002 5:49:37 PM PST by Salvation
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To: flamefront

Hooray for Thatcher!

18 posted on 03/17/2002 5:50:39 PM PST by Southack
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To: Mad Ivan
btt
19 posted on 03/17/2002 5:53:41 PM PST by GuillermoX
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To: Salvation
It's starting to happen very slowly. People are waking up to the fact that Europe is a threat to our very way of life.
20 posted on 03/17/2002 5:53:42 PM PST by widgysoft
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