Posted on 03/15/2002 12:28:49 PM PST by MiamiFreePress
Hello FReepers,
We have some more jaw dropping video for you today. It all took place on state property at the University of South Florida in St. Petersburg Florida, on March 13, 2002.
My Favorite Headache and I took the trip up to St. Pete expecting the usual U.S. bashing and commie flourishes. But this event also featured the theme of armed violence against the U.S.
Before the event even began, one of the speakers, Kawal Ulanday of the Philippines, hid the U.S. flag that was prominently positioned behind the podium. This would set the tone for the events that would follow.
Once again, I believe the video speaks for itself. And here are two quotes from it:
Kawal Ulanday, Committee for Human Rights in the Philippines:
For our movement, taking up arms has been a last resort. Where to U.S. Imperialism its always been the first resort. And its always the peoples last resort. And so thats where were at, and thats where were proudly at. Because we will do definitely whatever it takes.
Penny Hess, Chair, the African People's Solidarity Committee:
We have to break our allegiance with this system and say, this is some white people that this government cant count on and I say all oppressed peoples have the right to bear arms against tyranny and oppression.
There is much more in the video, including Omali Yeshitela turning 9/11 into a knee slapping stand-up routine.
Enjoy the video,
Jorge Torres
Leftist radicals call for armed violence against U.S. Govt. (WinMedia/Broadband)
Leftist radicals call for armed violence against U.S. Govt. (Real/Broadband)
Loband version and other videos at my site.
To these sub-humans I say, "We have the money and the guns. If you're serious...then BRING IT!"
Lucius, or should I call you Lucy for short? I could care less if MiamiFreePress is a paper or a person, the point is that I wasn't even talking about him/she/whatever in my original reply. I simply stated that these sort of exhibitions where unsavory idiots prance around proclaiming to be in favor of overthrowing the government with arms while quoting Thomas Jefferson are more than likely plants whose purpose it is to cast disdain upon those of us who cherish our constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Same sort of thing with some of these so called "militias". The words "militia" and "patriot" were transformed from what they once meant into words which conjured up images of raving lunatics (ie. terrorists) with machine guns ready to bring about widespread chaos and anarchy. That is what prompted the "assault weapons" ban...
Additionally, my reference to MiamiFreePress was prompted by your characterization of him as that of someone who all of sudden decided to go record this event out of the clear blue sky, driving 300 miles to do so. If I may ask, how did he know that it was going to be taking place in the first place?
So he is not a paper, he did not just get lucky, he investigated and drove himself to Tampa Bay to get the videotape. Since so much of the media types in this country are at least somewhat sympathetic to this crowd, they are naturally not interested in exposing the facts about them.
Maybe he did just get lucky. And I agree that the media is probably made up of many who sympathize with these types. HOWEVER, how many of those would support the violent overthrow of the UNITED STATES, especially after 911?
Continuing, YOU brought up MiamiFreePress's location in Miami, if it was not signifigant, why did you bring the point up in the first place. If you want to know how he found out about the rally, why don't you ask him, before you accuse him of being a CIA agent.
Well since I don't live in FL, I thought that St. Petersburg was right next to it, hence that is where I thought the demonstration took place. It wasn't until your geography lesson that I wondered why someone would drive 300 miles to go record an event...
As for your fascination with the Manchurian Candidate, IT IS JUST A MOVIE, get it. ...{background on movie snipped}... This was FICTION, in case you are still capable of grasping the difference.
So wasn't Full Metal Jacket, but that doesn't mean that similar events didn't take place..
You are probably ignorant of the fact that mind control has been very much a factor in intelligence circles since the turn of the century (1900's that is). The Nazis performed a wide range of experiments to see how they could control the human mind, as well as the British, the Soviets, the Japanese, the Chinese, and yes, the United States. In fact, many former Nazis were allowed entry into the United States after WWII under the auspices of Operation Paperclip, where many of the Nazis who experimented on Jews at the death camps were used to perfect the techniques of taking over a person's mind through trauma, hypnotism, and drugs. Just do a web search on MK-ULTRA, perhaps that may enlighten you.
Let me put it this was Mr. Lurker, I knew Khigh Deigh, Khigh Deigh was an acquaintance of mine, and you Mr. Lurker are no Khigh Deigh, he was a gentleman and a man of intellect, two qualities in which you are totally lacking.
Let me put it to you this way Lucy. You're such a fine "gentleman" you decided to reference tin-foil and meds out of the clear blue sky where I hadn't even heard of you before. Perhaps you're the one that needs meds and tin-foil, maybe they'd do you some good.
And as far as intellect, obviously your buddy Khigh's didn't rub off on you. You seem to think by name-calling your going to score points. You only succeed in getting me typing more. So go ahead, make my day. :)
Oh, and BTW, it was the QUEEN OF DIAMONDS, not the Queen of Hearts.
I never considered it before I got my hands onto the Internet, which we can all thank Al Gore for inventing. :)
I was just getting my news from the papers and the TV like just about everyone else, so I had an excuse not to see the reality behind things back then. People who DO have access to the Internet and refuse to see that which is obvious don't have that excuse..
That is Dictator Sulla to you, former. (For more info on Sulla, see my homepage).
I simply stated that these sort of exhibitions where unsavory idiots prance around proclaiming to be in favor of overthrowing the government with arms while quoting Thomas Jefferson are more than likely plants whose purpose it is to cast disdain upon those of us who cherish our constitutional right to keep and bear arms.
Your stating your opinion on this matter does not make it true. There are plenty of traitors, especially on American college campuses. USF in particular is a known haunt of islamist ideologues, in fact they are so well known that they have been featured even in the left-wing mainstream media. Your idea that this has something to do with the defense of our 2nd Amendment rights apparently comes straight from your tinfoil, when chairman Mao said that 'all power comes from the barrel of a gun' he was NOT endorsing American's right to keep and bear arms, and neither are these enemy revolutionaries.
Additionally, my reference to MiamiFreePress was prompted by your characterization of him as that of someone who all of sudden decided to go record this event out of the clear blue sky, driving 300 miles to do so. If I may ask, how did he know that it was going to be taking place in the first place?
Since this fascinates you so, why don't you ask him, I don't know. My best guess, for what it is worth, is that either MiamiFreePress has contacts on the USF campus who saw notices of the meeting, or notices were put up on the internet or some place in the Miami area. But as I said, I have no factual information on this matter.
Maybe he did just get lucky. And I agree that the media is probably made up of many who sympathize with these types. HOWEVER, how many of those would support the violent overthrow of the UNITED STATES, especially after 911?
Based on my contacts with the news media, I would guess that about half would support the violent overthrow of the government.
Well since I don't live in FL, I thought that St. Petersburg was right next to it, hence that is where I thought the demonstration took place. It wasn't until your geography lesson that I wondered why someone would drive 300 miles to go record an event.
In the future, I would suggest engaging your mind, and informing yourself before spouting off and exposing your ignorance.
You are probably ignorant of the fact that mind control has been very much a factor in intelligence circles since the turn of the century (1900's that is). The Nazis performed a wide range of experiments to see how they could control the human mind, as well as the British, the Soviets, the Japanese, the Chinese, and yes, the United States.
Your moral equivalency ignorance is showing here, in your clear equating of the US with Nazi Germany.
In fact, many former Nazis were allowed entry into the United States after WWII under the auspices of Operation Paperclip, where many of the Nazis who experimented on Jews at the death camps were used to perfect the techniques of taking over a person's mind through trauma, hypnotism, and drugs.
BS, the main germans who were admitted under Operation Paperclip were Wernher vonBraun and the V2 Rocket team, I first read about Operation Paperclip over 40 years ago.
Just do a web search on MK-ULTRA, perhaps that may enlighten you.
I did a search on that subject, and discovered a gentleman who gave as his bona fides his experiences on the Art Bell talk show. Very enlightening indeed!!
Let me put it to you this way Lucy. You're such a fine "gentleman" you decided to reference tin-foil and meds out of the clear blue sky where I hadn't even heard of you before.
Another example of your ignorance, I guess. In any case, a search on MK-ULTRA demonstrates that my initial opinion on your information sources was right on the mark.
You only succeed in getting me typing more. So go ahead, make my day. :)
I am sorry, I have had enough kool aid for this period, I will not respond to further posts. 'Go sell crazy somewhere else.'
Oh, and BTW, it was the QUEEN OF DIAMONDS, not the Queen of Hearts.
I suppose you know I made no reference to the playing card you posted, nice HTML, beyond my current skills. I have to say, I do not care if it was the Ace of Spades! Goodbye now!
Did the CIA also fund and control the SDS, the hippie / yippie leaders ? By no means, did they. In point of fact, it was the KGB , through actual card carrying American born and bred Commies ! I suspected as much back then, and my opinons were validated, by David Horowitz. The CIA, FBI, and any other alphabet group , that you care to throw out , which are part of this nation's government, doesn't have a " fine Italian hand " in lefty protests; except for infitratng them, in order to gain info on them .
Yes, " brain washing " has been around for quite a while. So has doping ( do see the historical beginings for the word assassin ) up suicide warriors. " THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE " , a movie made from a very popular book, wasn't true. It was just a movie. The old SDSers, and Abbey Hoffman, David Horowitz, et al didn't have to be brainwashed ; they were raised, from babyhood to believe what they did. Neither do those people, who ae doing similar things on today's college campuses.
When Krischev mad that infamous speech at the UN< in 1960, all most people remember is the : " WE SHALL BURY YOU " part. There was ; however, a second part of that sentence : " FROM WITHIN ". He knew that there wre " sleeper cells " here, who would and DID do the dirty work ".
Do adjust your tinfoil hat, stop imagining that the USA government is behind such disgusting spewing, and do stop bashing Lucius ... who IS an intelligent, well read, mostly rational fellow FReeper, whose posts make far mre sense than your's do. And no, I don't always agree with with his replies . That YOU haven't ever read any of them, makes me think that it would be a good idea for you to go back to just lurking and reading FR .
They were probably the quiet guy sitting by himself in the fifth row of chairs. They might even have helped set up the sound system.
OTOH, the INS might like to know about this guy, and your local State Department office. Activities inconsistent, don't y'know.
Could you please loan Trent Lott some of our courage, your guts and your bravery? He desperately needs your help!
As usual, you ROCK! Thanks for making us proud.
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