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To: FormerLurker;MiamiFreePress
Lucius, or should I call you Lucy for short?

That is Dictator Sulla to you, former. (For more info on Sulla, see my homepage).

I simply stated that these sort of exhibitions where unsavory idiots prance around proclaiming to be in favor of overthrowing the government with arms while quoting Thomas Jefferson are more than likely plants whose purpose it is to cast disdain upon those of us who cherish our constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

Your stating your opinion on this matter does not make it true. There are plenty of traitors, especially on American college campuses. USF in particular is a known haunt of islamist ideologues, in fact they are so well known that they have been featured even in the left-wing mainstream media. Your idea that this has something to do with the defense of our 2nd Amendment rights apparently comes straight from your tinfoil, when chairman Mao said that 'all power comes from the barrel of a gun' he was NOT endorsing American's right to keep and bear arms, and neither are these enemy revolutionaries.

Additionally, my reference to MiamiFreePress was prompted by your characterization of him as that of someone who all of sudden decided to go record this event out of the clear blue sky, driving 300 miles to do so. If I may ask, how did he know that it was going to be taking place in the first place?

Since this fascinates you so, why don't you ask him, I don't know. My best guess, for what it is worth, is that either MiamiFreePress has contacts on the USF campus who saw notices of the meeting, or notices were put up on the internet or some place in the Miami area. But as I said, I have no factual information on this matter.

Maybe he did just get lucky. And I agree that the media is probably made up of many who sympathize with these types. HOWEVER, how many of those would support the violent overthrow of the UNITED STATES, especially after 911?

Based on my contacts with the news media, I would guess that about half would support the violent overthrow of the government.

Well since I don't live in FL, I thought that St. Petersburg was right next to it, hence that is where I thought the demonstration took place. It wasn't until your geography lesson that I wondered why someone would drive 300 miles to go record an event.

In the future, I would suggest engaging your mind, and informing yourself before spouting off and exposing your ignorance.

You are probably ignorant of the fact that mind control has been very much a factor in intelligence circles since the turn of the century (1900's that is). The Nazis performed a wide range of experiments to see how they could control the human mind, as well as the British, the Soviets, the Japanese, the Chinese, and yes, the United States.

Your moral equivalency ignorance is showing here, in your clear equating of the US with Nazi Germany.

In fact, many former Nazis were allowed entry into the United States after WWII under the auspices of Operation Paperclip, where many of the Nazis who experimented on Jews at the death camps were used to perfect the techniques of taking over a person's mind through trauma, hypnotism, and drugs.

BS, the main germans who were admitted under Operation Paperclip were Wernher vonBraun and the V2 Rocket team, I first read about Operation Paperclip over 40 years ago.

Just do a web search on MK-ULTRA, perhaps that may enlighten you.

I did a search on that subject, and discovered a gentleman who gave as his bona fides his experiences on the Art Bell talk show. Very enlightening indeed!!

Let me put it to you this way Lucy. You're such a fine "gentleman" you decided to reference tin-foil and meds out of the clear blue sky where I hadn't even heard of you before.

Another example of your ignorance, I guess. In any case, a search on MK-ULTRA demonstrates that my initial opinion on your information sources was right on the mark.

You only succeed in getting me typing more. So go ahead, make my day. :)

I am sorry, I have had enough kool aid for this period, I will not respond to further posts. 'Go sell crazy somewhere else.'

Oh, and BTW, it was the QUEEN OF DIAMONDS, not the Queen of Hearts.

I suppose you know I made no reference to the playing card you posted, nice HTML, beyond my current skills. I have to say, I do not care if it was the Ace of Spades! Goodbye now!

128 posted on 03/15/2002 9:42:06 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Another time sport . stay focused on what you have to do . Dont be distracted by good things , nor bad things . In spite of the fact that this republic will never be perfect , just stay focused .
138 posted on 03/15/2002 10:36:43 PM PST by Ben Bolt
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
BS, the main germans who were admitted under Operation Paperclip were Wernher vonBraun and the V2 Rocket team, I first read about Operation Paperclip over 40 years ago.

Your research skills are quite limited from what I see of your summation. Try clicking on some of these links below..

Project Paperclip: Nazi Scientists Who Performed Human Experimentation in the U. S.
Operation Paperclip casefile
Watchman On The Wall

Just do a web search on MK-ULTRA, perhaps that may enlighten you.

I did a search on that subject, and discovered a gentleman who gave as his bona fides his experiences on the Art Bell talk show. Very enlightening indeed!!

Again your research skills are considerably lacking (perhaps conviniently?)..

Resources on Drug Experimentation and Related Mind Control Experiments by the U.S. Government
MK-Ultra: The CIA and Radiation
History of MK-ULTRA. CIA program on Mind Control.
MKULTRA: CIA Mind Control

Another example of your ignorance, I guess. In any case, a search on MK-ULTRA demonstrates that my initial opinion on your information sources was right on the mark.

Obviously you missed the mark along time ago..

178 posted on 03/16/2002 3:12:07 PM PST by FormerLurker
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla;MiamiFreePress;FormerLurker
Another example of your ignorance, I guess. In any case, a search on MK-ULTRA demonstrates that my initial opinion on your information sources was right on the mark.

Not all that you hear about on Art Bell is BS. As far as MK-Ultra is concerned, broaden your search to at least include amazon.com.

Of course, you may well be part of the FBI-CIA disinformation apparatus. They have found ridicule to be their most effective tool to answer embarrassing questions.

183 posted on 03/16/2002 9:02:33 PM PST by rightofrush
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