Domino's Pizza Founder Proposes 250 Foot Tall Crucifix [as big as Statue Of Liberty]

Detroit Free Press ^ | 1/29/02

[11th Earl of Mar]

ANN ARBOR TOWNSHIP, Mich. (AP) -- Domino's Pizza founder Tom Monaghan wants to build a 250-foot-high freestanding crucifix at his Domino's Farms office park in this Washtenaw County community.

The 25-story structure, topped by a 40-foot figure of Christ, would be about as tall as the Statue of Liberty, and 51 feet shorter than the tip of its torch.

[DouglasKC]

Something like, say, a bronze serpent or maybe golden cherubim, perhaps... And it's not like God Himself became flesh and made His dwelling amongst us, providing a true Image of Himself. You're entitled to your opinion on the meaning of the Second Commandment. When you pretend that your interpretation is the only right one, in contradiction to the entire history of Christendom, though, you give me lessons in the true meaning of arrogance.

Sorry if I offended you. It seemes like a clear violation of the commandment to me. But in the name of tolerance, if you want to continue to bow before a cross, more power to ya.

[ArrogantBustard]

I'm not that easily offended. It's not an idol. But in the name of tolerance, If you want to continue to bear false witness against your neighbors, more power to ya.

AB

[IM2Phat4U]

Pizza is pizza, it's all good.

I agree.

[2sheep]

We know the hidden, occult meaning of the peace sign, and who stands illuminated over the harbor.  Nice find!  I'll see you one image and raise you FOUR.  Don'tcha think Dominoes wants to put up a "twisted cross" or a "bent cross" now that the transgressors have come to the full?  And how many even know what that means?

The Lord said to the Samaritan woman,

Joh 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. ...

Today there are many who worship they know not what...although there are many clues.  Here's one and another.  People have been Too Long in the Sun.  The father of the sun goddess (with her arm up raised) is the moon god and he (Islam) is coming with a vengeance BEFORE the great and terrible day of the Lord!

[machman]

Well, I was raised Roman Catholic, and now attend a Methodist Church myself.

[Mikey]

"All Cross Loathers Unite."

That's even better and closer to what they really stand for.

[doug from upland]

I was in Brazil last February and had the opportunity to climb up to view Cristo Redentor. What an awesome sight and what an awesome view from atop the hill of Corcovado.

[ppaul]

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[ValenB4]

"The religious aspect (of the crucifix) doesn't really bother me, and I'm Jewish," Karen Mendelson said. "But I just don't like things sticking up in the air. And at 25 stories, it's going to be absurd looking."

People said much of the same thing when the Eiffel Tower was being planned. It would block the view, it would be ugly and inconvenient. If this cross is built and becomes a cultural attraction that brings in tourists, you won't be able to find a person who was originally opposed to it.

That being said, building this cross is a great idea.

[Elsie]

We have no songbooks in our church.

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Our church is looking into getting the projector system to display the songs on a screen.

On the plus side...
People will be looking UP, and not singing DOWN onto the floor,
No 'additions' will be needed in the bulletins, if we sing a song NOT in the hymnal,
They won't wear out,
The cleaning folks won't have to put them back into the holders,
Little kids won't 'accidentally' tear up the pages,
Random 'thumps' won't occur from them falling onto the floor during the sermon.

On the minus side...
The ones I've seen merely show the words - not the music. If you are a SATB, you'd best have the music memorized from somewhere,
There will be less (none) of looking thru the book for your favorite hymns.

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As our world changes that we are trying to reach with the Gospel, our methods will change to adequately meet their need, while still ministering to our present congregation.

Change the method, but NOT the message.

"If I be lifted up........."

[Elsie]

We have no songbooks in our church.

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Our church is looking into getting the projector system to display the songs on a screen.

On the plus side...
People will be looking UP, and not singing DOWN onto the floor,
No 'additions' will be needed in the bulletins, if we sing a song NOT in the hymnal,
They won't wear out,
The cleaning folks won't have to put them back into the holders,
Little kids won't 'accidentally' tear up the pages,
Random 'thumps' won't occur from them falling onto the floor during the sermon.

On the minus side...
The ones I've seen merely show the words - not the music. If you are a SATB, you'd best have the music memorized from somewhere,
There will be less (none) of looking thru the book for your favorite hymns.

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As our world changes that we are trying to reach with the Gospel, our methods will change to adequately meet their need, while still ministering to our present congregation.

Change the method, but NOT the message.

"If I be lifted up........."

[11th Earl of Mar]

Change the method, but NOT the message.

Agreed. We began going to a church which sold its organ and now has a professional quality P/W band with drums, electric guitar, etc.

It was a much needed change for me. The old hymnals do bring back memories, but the modern music is better for me [and better for visitors].

[Notwithstanding]

Preaching with art is still preaching!

"When I came to you, brothers, proclaiming the mystery of God, I did not come with sublimity of words or of wisdom. For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ, and him crucified. " (I Corinthians 2:1-2)

[Aquinasfan]

Or better yet, an empty tomb.

The Body of Christ still suffers.

[Notwithstanding]

"I did not come with sublimity of words or of wisdom. For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ, and him crucified." - I Corinthians 2:1-2

This was written LONG after Christ died and rose!

[Notwithstanding]

"For Jews demand signs and Greeks look for wisdom, but we proclaim Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and foolishness to Gentiles, but to those who are called, Jews and Greeks alike, Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength." - I Corinthians 1:22-25

This was written LONG after Christ died and rose!

[Notwithstanding]

Mr. Monaghan puts a up a very Chisto-centric (Christ -centered) Christmas light display with 3 million lights along this same highway. He calls it the "St. Nicholas Light Display". People pay $9/car to drive through it up close and he raises thousands of dollars for charities - many of which are not Catholic.

http://www.stnicholaslightdisplay.com

St. Nicholas Light Display - charities:

	Listed below are the many charities that have benfitted from the light display throughout the years, and many continue to benefit to this day. America Family Association AMI Agnus Dei Academy Ann Arbor Civitan Club Ann Arbor Food Gatherers Ann Arbor Jaycees Arbor Hospice Beta Sigma Phi Boy Scout Troop #8 Boy Scout Troop #240 Brandy Memorial Fund C.H. Mott's Children's Hospital Catholic Association of Parents Chelsea Area Players Chelsea Children's Co-op Children are Precious Children for the Advancement of Performing Arts Children's Leukemia Foundation of MI Christ Our Savior Lutheran Church Community Leaning Post County Connection Chorus Cross Life Chapel Dearborn Heights Lions Club Dexter Co-op Nursery Dixboro United Methodist Church Father Pat Jackson House First Congregational Church of Chelsea First United Methodist Church Friends of Wildlife Gleaner's Food Bank Habitat for Humanity Hear My Voice Help Source Hope Clinic Huron H.S. Rowing Team Huron Valley School Immaculate Conception Church Individualized Hospice Interfaith Hospitality Network Jack & Jill Foundation Kellogg Eye Center Knights of Columbus Little Tiger's Child Care Living Water Recovery Service Loretta Matthew's Memorial Fund MADD Make-A-Wish Foundation Mammastatin Research Institute Milan Children's Co-op Nursery Mott Children's Hospital New Year Jubilee Northeast Seniors Northwest Detroit Lions Club Notre Dame Club Optimist Club of Saline Penrickton Center for Blind Children Perception Gamma Pi Personalized Nursing Light House Plymouth Salem Cheerleaders Pregnancy Counseling Center Problem Pregnancy S.O.A.R. Saline Knights of Columbus Saline Optimist Club Seedlings Shepherd Montessori South Lyon Co-op Nursery South Lyon Area Youth Assistance Spiritus Sanctus Academies St. Matthew's Church St. Pat's Dad's Club St. Thomas Boy Scout Troup #8 Stone School Co-op Nursery Taylor Truman/Kennedy J.R.O.T.C. Tecumseh Church of Nazarene Therapeutic Riding Triangle Co-op Nursery Trinity Episcopal Church Unity Church Washtenaw ACA Washtenaw Alano Club Wedgewood Christian Family Services Westwoods Community Church Ypsilanti Meals on Wheels Zion Lutheran Church   If your 501(c)3 charity would like to be considered as a future benfactor of the St. Nicholas Light Display, please contact the office at (734) 930-4427.     .

[DittoJed2]

His sacrifice, however, is complete.He is no longer on the cross but having provided the sacrifice said "It is Finished" and now sits at the right hand of the Father. Hebrews 10:10-12.

[BlessedBeGod]

Just as long as it's not one of those "Resurrected Christ" things.

[Notwithstanding]

Then, in your estimation, Corinthians needs to be tossed???

Long after Christ publicly uttered the words "it is finished" from the cross I suppose Paul was wrong to "proclaim Christ crucified" (I Cor 1) and "know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ, and him crucified" (I Cor 2)?