We need some pictures!!!
Posted on 01/28/2002 2:05:28 PM PST by John Jorsett
KOGO AM 600 talk show host Roger Hedgecock has just broken the story that the INS has arrested ten illegal aliens (he gave the nationalities, but I can't recall any other than Honduras) at the Point Loma nuclear submarine base in San Diego. The aliens were employed by a contractor and were engaged in the sandblasting and painting of a nuclear submarine! 5 of the aliens had obtained base clearances, and 5 had not. Some aliens fled at the approach of the INS, causing the lockdown of the base. 2 were later apprehended when their hiding place was located. When the INS refused to comment, the KOGO news staff requested the name of the FBI agent in charge of Homeland Security for the San Diego area. They were told that there was none.
Before you can put this into effect, you have to have a nonforgeable form of ID. As it is, there are a multitude of acceptable IDs, and the employers can plausibly say that they're not experts in detecting frauds. As long as the person can present something that's on the approved list, and it looks good enough to a layperson, the employer is off the hook. Other than Tyson, I haven't heard of a prosecution of an employer.
First order of business: identify those who are supposed to be here, and throw out the ones who aren't supposed to be here. The only other option is to just accept 8-10 million illegals as the price tag on having been so lax for so long on this issue. I'm not prepared to pay that price.
The borders can be protected much better, INS can be beefed up and the US an do a hell of a lot better job keeping out the illegal aliens without the socialist solution of a national ID card.
Provide a detailed proposal, please. I want to see specifics: manpower to be employed, overall policy guidance, et cetera. I also want to see a solution to the issue of the illegals already here.
Of course their alternative to a national ID card is just let the illegal aliens in to vote for their phoney world government socialist candidates like Al Bore who will then give us a national ID card!!!!
Or the alternative is to simply acknowledge that 8-10 million illegals made it into the country and that they can't be touched.
They never want to better enforce the laws we already have, they just want to give us more laws to take more freedoms and our guns away.
False argument and ad hominem attacks, to boot.
Paddie, me lad, you can do better than this.
You didn't prove it just now. Congratulations, you're eligible for deportation.
"I'm not an expert at checking IDs for forgery, how come the GOOBERMINT didn't pick up on it when they gave this guy a DRIVER'S LICENSE?"
Problem solved!
Not.
Wow. You are grossed out by women.
You do realize that you just confessed to being a rump ranger, right?
Stolen IDs?
How about, the right hand doesn't really know what the left hand is doing. A lot of things went seriously lax under X42. My guess is that the ones directly responsible for the "checks" do cursory ones for the sake of appearances but never actually follow through because they know these people couldn't pass. I'm afraid our president has a blind spot in this area and it seems that both political parties have a vested interest in continuing to allow it and to push for this amnesty crap.
And they make beds!! And they work in the kitchen!! And they bus tables!! Unfortunately there is no need for gardeners on submarines. To bad. [/sarcasm]
To hell with that, DO THEY DO WINDOWS!
If that is indeed part of the process, then it might work. Otherwise, it's all smoke and mirrors. For the record, I'm very leary about the whole proposition. I'm particulary concerned about any smart card technology that could physically track its bearer, not to mention the enormous potential for abuse of privacy with an all-encompassing centralized file. We're getting dangerously close to losing one of our last rights - unfettered physical movement within our own borders.
What about the poor barnacles? Isn't there some protection for them? Does PETA know about this?
prior to '85 the written sop for contact of pcbs was to wash with antimicrobial waterless hand cleaner, no one can not go near the stuff w/o full poopysuit faceshield resperator gloves and boots.
If there is any hazard in handling or movement of any material there are strict guidelines in place, anyone caught not complying with those standards would be yanked from the job faster then you can say 'dang'.
contractors allowing infractions would have the contract nulled with heavy fines to boot. all material removed such as paint and the media used to remove said paint is contained and tallied with a bill for clean-up as part of the work package.
last time I was in a drydock they where real hard on any crew member allowing anything to full into the drydock such as cigarette butts as there was an extra charge for cleaning any of that kind of stuff up.
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