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Neanderthals Clever Enough To Make 'Superglue'
Ananova ^ | 0106-2002

Posted on 01/06/2002 7:24:03 AM PST by blam

Neanderthals clever enough to make 'superglue'

Researchers say Neanderthals had considerable technical and intellectual skills and were as ingenious as modern humans.

German scientists say they have found Neanderthals mixed a kind of superglue to make tools.

It had to be made at a precise temperature and means the race had considerable technical and manual skills in comparison to their dullard image.

Neanderthals are thought to have first appeared around 230,000 to 300,000 years ago.

Professor Chris Stringer, head of human origins at the Natural History Museum in London, said the discovery is potentially very important: "It would further show that the behaviour gap between us and Neanderthals is narrower than we thought. Some may say there isn't a gap."

Independent reports that the research centres on a new analysis of two 80,000-year-old samples of blackish-brown pitch discovered in a lignite mining pit in the Harz mountains in Germany.

One of the pitch pieces bears the print of a finger and there are also imprints of a flint stone tool and wood, suggesting the pitch had served as a sort of glue to secure a wooden shaft to a flint stone blade.

The research, carried out at the Doerner-Institut in Munich, found the pitch was a birch pitch, which can be only be produced at temperatures of 300-400C.

The team, led by Professor Dietrich Mania of Freidrich-Schiller University in Jena, said: "This implies the Neanderthals did not come across these pitches by accident but must have produced them with intent."

"The pitch finds demonstrate that the Neanderthals must have possessed a high degree of technical and manual abilities, comparable to those of modern Homo sapiens.''

Story filed: 12:45 Sunday 6th January 2002


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
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To: carpio
BTTT
121 posted on 02/06/2004 5:01:55 PM PST by carpio
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The Neandertal Enigma
by James Shreeve
Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127]

122 posted on 09/09/2006 9:48:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Saturday, September 2, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 24Karet; 3AngelaD; ...
Topic is an oldie.

Just updating the GGG information, but also sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
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123 posted on 09/09/2006 9:49:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Saturday, September 2, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Burkeman1
Neanderthals- as I understand it- were Homo Sapiens- just a different race. While they had physical traits that are strikingly different from modern humans they are still genetically the same and could mate with modern man today.

No, they were Homo neanderthalensis, a different species, but the same genus. It might be confusing in the current-day humans Homo sapiens are the only members of the Homo genus. Other great apes are:

Chimpanzee - Pan troglodytes
Bonobo - Pan paniscus
Eastern Gorilla - Gorilla gorilla
Western Gorilla - Gorilla beringei
Bornean Orangutan - Pongo pygmaeus
Sumatran Orangutan - Pongo abelii

Here's a taxonomy tree.

124 posted on 09/09/2006 10:45:23 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: blam
Did they find an inscription showing the real secret?:


125 posted on 09/09/2006 10:48:10 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: blam
Blam,

 I'd like to know if you've come up with a good way to organize all this stuff, or if
 you search for stuff like that 'redheads are neanderthal' article from 2001 that you linked to?

126 posted on 09/09/2006 10:54:49 PM PDT by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place. (http://www.zprc.org/))
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To: blam

Cyanoacrylate??? Really? My interest is peaked.. .


127 posted on 09/10/2006 12:12:30 AM PDT by abner (Know islam, no peace; No islam, know peace.)
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To: doug from upland
"So if we call RAT voters Neanderthals we are no longer insulting them???"

Go ahead, pi$$ off a neanderthal at your own risk.

128 posted on 09/10/2006 12:22:46 AM PDT by norton
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To: blam

We have several kinds of intelligent creatures on this planet now, including parrots, dolphins, chimps, and gorillas. Koko, the first gorilla taught to sign, is said to have an IQ in the range of about 100, with an understood English vocabulary of several thousand words. All of that of course is very very far from us being related to any of those creatures, being descended from any of them via anyting resembling evolution, or anything like that at all. We are not related to apes or hominids in any way.


129 posted on 09/10/2006 2:47:53 AM PDT by tomzz
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To: blam
Such potential here...

Welcome to "Cave Improvement" with your host, "Zug"

Hi everyone, on our last eposide, my lovely assistant "Mung" was eaten by a giant ice-weasel. So today we're going to build a rudimentary neolithic intruder alert system using coconuts, human hair and various bodily excretions...

130 posted on 09/10/2006 2:54:44 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Eternal_Bear
Neandertals had bone structures twice as large as sapiens meaning they could support massive musculature. That means they could have body slammed NFL linemen.

Average height for a neanderthal was about five feet and they did not have access to steroids or modern weight training facilities. Against a modern NFL lineman, they'd lose.

131 posted on 09/10/2006 2:55:40 AM PDT by tomzz
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To: blam
It had to be made at a precise temperature and means the race had considerable technical and manual skills in comparison to their dullard image.

The “dullard image” of Neanderthals was a very temporary image - except for Hollywood screenwriters.
132 posted on 09/10/2006 3:01:32 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: blam

LOL As I read the article, the original glue comes to mind, hint: it is found within the mucous membranes of the human body.


133 posted on 09/10/2006 3:06:12 AM PDT by exnavy (God bless America)
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To: blam

I just knew that they were as smart as us, just a little backward. LOL


134 posted on 09/10/2006 8:58:47 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: Yeti
"I don't know what Neanderthal ladies looked like, but it probably would be more likely that Neandethal guys impregnated Cro-Magnon women than the other way around."

You've obviously never been around sailors on shore leave, or any other young GI's. Not all, but a substantial fraction have adopted the motto "Go Ugly Early."
135 posted on 09/10/2006 9:12:09 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: zeugma; SunkenCiv
"Blam,"

"I'd like to know if you've come up with a good way to organize all this stuff, or if
you search for stuff like that 'redheads are neanderthal' article from 2001 that you linked to?"

Sunkenciv is the organizing king...I (and others) find it and post it, SunkenCiv does all the sorting, cataloging and filing...without him, we'd be nothing.

Now, I do bookmark some of my very favorites to my profile page and to see those, click on my name then click on links on my profile page.

136 posted on 09/10/2006 9:56:29 AM PDT by blam
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