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Love is ... life without the pitter-patter of tiny feet (Angry Feminist alert!)
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | 1/2/2 | Rachel Roberts

Posted on 01/02/2002 6:49:27 AM PST by dead

Is it really so hard to understand, asks Rachel Roberts, that there can be more to a couple's relationship than having children?

I am one of a growing number of women who will elect not to have children. And at least in my experience, the decision to not have children isn't one that is met with much enthusiasm.

From the family, there are comments like "But don't you want us all to have kids playing together at birthday parties and barbecues?" and "I've just always thought that part of a couple's life together is having a family".

From friends, there are protests like "But you'd make such great parents!" or "You've had such a good family life, don't you want to re-create that yourself?"

On the whole, though, the standard response is scepticism. Brush-offs. "Oh, you say that now, but wait till you turn 30!" And "I thought that, too, when I was your age but, trust me, that biological clock really gets you."

Well, I am fast approaching 30 and I have never been surer that I don't want children. My partner feels the same. We have thought about it a lot and have decided time and again that no, it's not for us. We don't want to be woken up at all hours to attend a screaming infant that knows only the need to suck. We don't want to sacrifice our time and energy chasing death-defying toddlers or taxiing around teenagers who have recently learnt to hate us.

More importantly, neither of us (me, especially) wants to see my body torn asunder during childbirth. We already love our life the way it is, child-free. And that is why the brush-off response interests me the most.

It's as though those who either have, or some day want, children refuse to recognise other possibilities in life. They are mentally closing off to paths different from their well-worn one. Particularly for women, it seems that in the face of all political and cultural change, we can always rely on some things staying the same.

Thirty years on from second-wave feminism, people are still incredulous of the woman who declares she doesn't want to be a mother.

Feminists have long argued that the social and political resistance to women who choose to remain child-free reflects a far deeper cultural anxiety about what is expected of women. Traditional femininity is inextricably bound up with notions of mothering, nurturance and birth.

Since day dot, motherhood has been viewed as the natural female career. And now, thanks to an enduring belief in biological determinism, the desire to bear children continues to be seen in terms of instinct, as a drive that is universally hard-wired into the female psyche. To be a normal woman, we must at least want children, even if for some reason we cannot have them.

Yeah, yeah, I hear you say, we've all done Feminism 101 - tell us something we don't know. Well, having experienced the reactions couples meet when revealing that they do not want children, I suspect there is something more at play than simply challenging the traditional ideology that surrounds women. Certainly a woman who elects not to have children is treading a less orthodox path. However, it's not just the woman's decision to not have children that disturbs convention, but the man's as well. As partners they upset traditional understandings of what heterosexual love is about. Why do I think this? Well, when was the last time any of us saw a romantic film where one lover whispers to the other "I love you so much, darling, I never want to have your baby!" It just wouldn't seem right.

From wedding ceremonies to popular culture, we are saturated with the idea that children are the symbol of a man and woman's love for each other. Undoubtedly the outcome of their physical union, children are moreover portrayed as the embodiment of a couple's emotional bond. The place where a man and woman's DNA and souls enmesh.

Having children remains integral to our contemporary mythology of love and desire, and those couples who reject parenthood disappoint our romantic expectations. They let us down by not making what is seen as the ultimate declaration of heterosexual love.

So perhaps that is why society shrugs off couples who don't want children. Perhaps the sceptical comments from family and friends reflect an unwillingness to accept romantic defeat. At the very least, it shows a distinct lack of imagination when it comes to recognising signs of love.

After all, for couples like us, the real romance is in being child-free.

Rachel Roberts is a freelance writer.


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To: discostu
I agree with you. Not everyone has the temperament to be a parent. Better to decline to bring new lives into the world you do not have the resources to raise properly.

And for those of you who call such folks selfish, tell me, is it less selfish to have a child only to lock it up in daycare soon after its born?

61 posted on 01/02/2002 7:42:10 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: alpowolf
Speaking of nosy bodies, here is a rant from a self-proclaimed anti-marriage type of guy:

If you are at all happy with bachelorhood...don't let yourself be "talked" into marriage. Ever.

62 posted on 01/02/2002 7:42:15 AM PST by francisandbeans
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To: dead
We don't want to be woken up at all hours to attend a screaming infant that knows only the need to suck. We don't want to sacrifice our time and energy chasing death-defying toddlers or taxiing around teenagers who have recently learnt to hate us

Y'know, I can respect the decision not to have children, though maybe I can't understand it, having been maybe one of the few men, who always looked forward to being a husband and father. Thing is, there is a lot more to children than the above, especially with regard to toddlers and teenagers.

There's more than anger at people who wonder why she doesn't want children here: There's anger at children and the families that have them.

63 posted on 01/02/2002 7:43:51 AM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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To: cake_crumb
It's really easy to figure out who hates kids at the family gathering, look for the people that are furthest away from the play area, those are your "prime suspects". Then see what happens when they wind up having contact with kids (bound to happen, one can limit the frequency of child exposures but you can never eliminate them all together): if a visible shudder runs up their spine and they plaster a hollow grin on their face they hate kids.

Mind you, we're not psychotic or anything. We're not going to kill your child, we won't even allow them to come to harm through deliberate inaction, we understand the social importance of kids and that parents are usually emotionally attached to the little beasts. We just don't want to be around them and certainly don't want to live with one. There's a difference between "hate" and "wish destroyed", there's a long list of things I hate but a rather short list of things I wish destroyed. And remember, most of the people that are really dangerous to kids just love them, ask John Wayne Gacy. We're not the enemy, we just hate kids.

64 posted on 01/02/2002 7:44:25 AM PST by discostu
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To: joathome
I'm not at all clear what you're trying to imply about me, here; your post is anything but clearly worded. For the record, though, my thoughts (not feelings, please) regarding her selfishness have nothing to do with her being a her. If she was a he, I'd say the same thing. Do you view children as nothing more than a burden, inconvenience, and drag on your free-wheeling lifestyle? Was your conscience, perchance, pricked by my comment?

AB

65 posted on 01/02/2002 7:47:19 AM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: thesharkboy
That is how it is spelled (sceptical) in most English-speaking countries, including Australia.

I suppose if you consider Autralia an English speaking country, anything is permissable, right mite?

66 posted on 01/02/2002 7:51:48 AM PST by Maceman
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To: joathome
Do you feel the same way about them?

Sure do.

67 posted on 01/02/2002 7:51:51 AM PST by al_c
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To: A Ruckus of Dogs
Oh bless you. So rare to get any support on these threads. I use that arguement sometimes (should someone that doesn't like kids have kids), usually I'm met with the facile "once you have them you'll love them". And while this sometimes is the case it isn't always. My wife reads a lot of true crime and one of the most common phrases you'll see in those books is "unwanted child". There are people that don't decide to love kids once they have one. I don't think it's fair to gamble the kid's sanity on whether or not my attitude will change the minute their born. Doesn't seem selfish to me.
68 posted on 01/02/2002 7:53:22 AM PST by discostu
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To: ArrogantBustard
No, actually my comments were intended for no one in particular. Just pointing out the double standard. That's all.

My kids aren't a drag at all. And I hope to have two more by the end of next month since we have decided to adopt.

69 posted on 01/02/2002 7:56:12 AM PST by joathome
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To: al_c
"Do you feel the same way about them?

Sure do."

But many here wouldn't, and that is my point. That's all.

70 posted on 01/02/2002 7:57:33 AM PST by joathome
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To: dead
Oh....but for the narcissism of youth.....the unfortunate thing is NOT that she feels this way, but that someone printed her "feelings" and that we are bothering to read it.
71 posted on 01/02/2002 8:01:26 AM PST by goodnesswins
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To: joathome
Just pointing out the double standard.

Which double standard? I certainly did not express one.

AB

72 posted on 01/02/2002 8:02:26 AM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: discostu
Parenthood is an option, not an obligation. You'll never miss not having something you never wanted anyway. Hang in there!!
73 posted on 01/02/2002 8:02:34 AM PST by joey'smom
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To: discostu
"We just don't want to be around them and certainly don't want to live with one. There's a difference between "hate" and "wish destroyed", there's a long list of things I hate but a rather short list of things I wish destroyed"

I'm just trying to get you to understand the difference between hate and dislike. "Hate" is a very passionate, violent and distructive emotion. "Dislike" is a strong and much more rational emotion.

I "dislike" Brussels sprouts. I don't hate them. I don't start "anti-Brussels sprouts" campaigns, in order to make it politically correct for everyone to hate Brussels sprouts.

I believe the term you mean to use to discribe your feelings toward kids is that you dislike them. That's fine. This woman appears, by her hystrionic ranting, to HATE parenthood, and seems to be on a campaign to make it politically correct for everyone to hate parenthood, as well.

74 posted on 01/02/2002 8:05:29 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: Penny1
I don't think she'll change her mind at 35. I think she will change her mind at 45. Then she'll use fertility treatments to have her baby, even though she really is too old to have a baby.

I know lots of women that hit 40 and decide they want to have a baby. Then they get upset when they don't get pregnant.

75 posted on 01/02/2002 8:05:43 AM PST by luckystarmom
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To: discostu
Maybe you need to find more polite company. A decision to marry or to bear children is a personal one for a man and a woman, and people who care about you should not be giving you unsolicited advice about it, unless you are harming someone, e.g., having children outside of marriage. Since you can't swap out your relatives, you need to defend yourself when you are with them. My answer would be along the lines of "If you'll forgive me for not answering that question, I'll forgive you for asking it" or "Oh, my heavens, such an impolite question!" followed by an indulgent chuckle.
76 posted on 01/02/2002 8:11:32 AM PST by Bigg Red
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To: ArrogantBustard
I will try one more time. I was making "general" observations about the "general" tone of a number of men on this board.

I'm not even sure this article would have even been posted if it was written by a man. What do you think? :)

77 posted on 01/02/2002 8:14:05 AM PST by joathome
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To: dead
Evolution in progress.
78 posted on 01/02/2002 8:14:29 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: discostu
You have my support as well! While I can't say that I hate kids, I have always felt indifferent to the idea of having children of my own. I think it's God's way of telling me that maybe I SHOULDN'T have children. At forty years of age, all I have ever felt is "whatever..." when it comes to the subject of children. I just don't feel the parental urge. The desire to be a parent has just never been there. Can't force it.
79 posted on 01/02/2002 8:14:49 AM PST by Nathan Jr.
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To: cake_crumb
No, I hate kids. Being around them makes me tense, gives me a headache and causes me to be more aggressive and just generally in a bad mood. As I said there's "hate" and "wish destroyed". I don't seek to kill kids and I don't have a problem with other people having them, just don't make me deal with them, or at least bring me booze to steady my nerves after you take the kid away.
80 posted on 01/02/2002 8:16:29 AM PST by discostu
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