Is December 25th Special?

marbren

[marbren]

December 25th has traditionally been celebrated as Jesus’ birthday. When you start to examine this closer you find that a September date makes more sense for the actual birthday. December 25th may be special however. I am looking for answers to a few questions. Is December 25th related to Kislev 25 ( the first day of Hanukkah in the Jewish Calendar)?. There might be some neat analogies to the candle lighting and Jesus being the light of the world. Was Hanukkah celebrated around 10 BC ? If we project back our current calendar to the time of Christ’s birth do Kislev 25 and December 25th ever fall on the same day? Was Jesus conceived on Kislev 25/ December 25th? Do the nine candles on the menorah have anything to do the nine months of Mary’s pregnancy? I am not trying to prove anything I was just hoping some of you may have some answers to these questions. God might be behind the December 25th date. This may also help the pro-life position of life beginning at conception. God became man when Jesus was conceived in Mary’s womb.

[Fabozz]

"Did Mary celebrate Hanukkah?"

Probably. Jesus did (or at least he went to the Temple then), according to John 10:22-23.

[BenF]

The seven Jewish feasts all point to Jesus.

What are these?

Hanukkah is a little different. Did God ordain it?

No, Chanukah is not biblical in origin.

This was a main point of my questions. are Hanukkah and Dec 25th related?

Well, it is possible that the 25th of Kislev did occur on what was to be Dec. 25, but that calendar wasn't in effect at the time.

[marbren]

I know there was no Dec 25 2000 years ago. My question is if we project today's accurate calendar back aout 2000 years ago, with a computer program for instance, will it be the same day as 25 Kislev (the first day of Hanukkah) which did exist. Also, Jimmy DeYoung is the one who first mentioned a linkage to 25 Kislev.

[marbren]

Jimmy DeYoung linked 25 Kislev for the reason Dec 25th was chosen for Christmas around 300 AD. I know many people want to say Dec 25 is a pagan holiday.

[BenF]

I see what you're saying. It would be an interesting exercise to see if they fell out on the same day.

[marbren]

I am curious if God has anything to do with the choice of December 25th for Christmas.

[Citizen of the Savage Nation]

You started the argument right but I disagree with your program's info on the timing of the course of abia. Maybe that program needs to be looked at. I found a site that goes into great detail here. Feel free to agree or disagree.

I agree with it.

[marbren]

Thinkin' Gal, God loves you. Israel is God's chosen people. Jesus is the Messiah.

[marbren]

I am not trying to prove anything, I was just curious.

[mc5cents]

December 25th, September 3rd, April 44th. It doesn't matter. We celebrate the fact that He was born, that He lived, and that He died for all our sins.

AMEN! I was thinking the same thing when I came across your post. This is it in a nutshell. Thank you. Merry Christmas!!

[BaBaStooey]

Jews would have had to go to Jerusalem for the Sukkot festival. But then, what would have created a similar situation in Bethlehem?

Caesar. Census. House of David goes to Bethlehem.

[Fabozz]

A DOS program to convert any date (including old Julian) into any other date (including Jewish) is available at http://www.lib.umich.edu/area/Near.East/computus.html. 25 December 1BC fell only a couple of weeks after 25 Kislev, so I'm sure they synched up some year around that time.

[Eagle Eye]

I celebrate the same day that the Apostle Paul set aside for celebration.

Interestingly enough, Christians are the most hateful regarding this.

[marbren]

I wish all a Merry Christmas also. I am not loosing any sleep over these questions, I just thought the topic might be interesting to explore.

[Eagle Eye]

By our reckonning, that would be 9-11-3BC. Tishri 1, New Year celebration, Day of Trumpets.
Glad to see someone else has read that.

[be131]

Luke says that the census occured when Cyrenius/Quirinius was governor of Syria. I thought I remembered reading somewhere that this created some inconsistencies in the dating -- I'm sure someone else on this thread will know.

[marbren]

I have and always will celebrate Christmas on Dec 25. I love Christmas.

[marbren]

The Fall feasts also have much to do with his second coming. Sept 11 is about 9 months after Dec 25.

[BenF]

I am curious if God has anything to do with the choice of December 25th for Christmas.

Asking me will do no good. You've got to go to the source.

[MileHi]

who happens to be the only religious icon in the world who scares liberals. Ever pondered why that is?

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