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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Jim Robinson
As I said on one of those other forums already:

"I use the web site a lot. I give a small pittance in return. Unless I am a shareholder, I don't need to see a balance sheet.

I also consume a lot of Diet Coke. Since I am not a shareholder in that, I do not care about their balance sheet either."

Screw the AFholes.

Reinstate Mojo? Whaddya, nuts???? He's obsessive-compulsive, man! 2,450 gigabytes of records and counting!

841 posted on 11/29/2001 2:55:47 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Hank Kerchief
If I understand the law correctly, if FR is "for profit" then we have to pay for the right to reproduce news articles. No more cut and pasting from news sources.
842 posted on 11/29/2001 2:56:59 AM PST by wewillnotfail
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To: backhoe
Thanks for the ping. I made comments back in the high 600's.

Long live FReeRepublic in our free republic!

843 posted on 11/29/2001 3:00:33 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: wewillnotfail
Demand and offer more intelligent discourse and less pop culture.

What, exactly, constitutes "intelligent discourse?" Libertarian threads? Religion? Guns and ammo? Y3K? Buchanan? Vince Foster?

From my Day One, the complaint has been "it ain't what it used to be . . quality is gone . . vanity, vanity, all is vanity . . "

Apart from activism, this site IS a chat room; your comment is chat, as is my response. So what? Essentially, if you've read one long Libertarian (etc.) thread, you've read them all; the only interest lies in the chat aspect. On every basic issue, the same ideas are expressed, pro and con, often burdened with the same quotations and passages from the same intelligent icons, pro and con. Over and over and over.

What makes FR unique is nuance and atmosphere, a zone which allows someone like Ferret to be appreciated without recourse to some idealized "level of discourse" or FRPC.

The hard news posted here is sourced, and is a convenience but not a necessity; the FR spin created and sustains FR's success, and that spin should be free-wheeling.

844 posted on 11/29/2001 3:02:45 AM PST by alcuin
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To: Jim Robinson
Darn. Please stay online. FR has given much to the world, as well as the American people. People from many countries lurk on this site, and some even donate. Some of these people are from communist China, and other countries with oppresive regimes.

Free Republic stands for balance. We've not only helped get a the right man for the job elected president and gotten overboard PC policies changed, we bring issues to the forefront that would otherwise never be reported.

Note to self: send donation, though it'll have to wait until my Social Security check comes next week.

Posters and lurkers from news outlets like Fox and UPI, how about a little plug for FR? Donate a free banner ad for FR on your sites.

845 posted on 11/29/2001 3:02:53 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: Jim Robinson
"Inspector Callahan, Arator and Storm Orphan were banned because they would not stop insulting people, even after repeated warnings and suspensions." Source

You have such a way with words.... Any truth to this statement of yours?

ROFL!!

846 posted on 11/29/2001 3:03:53 AM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Jim Robinson; Mojo
HEY MOJO, you craven, trembling, sweaty little p***y, I see you're still talking your s**t over in your bat-cave. Come over here with your same comments, you cowardly little piece of lint.

You are not even man enough to make your accusations in the light of day, but hide in the dark like the cockroach you are.

847 posted on 11/29/2001 3:07:22 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Jim Robinson
Ah, Growing pains! A very good sign.

In Memory of our members that lost their lives to terrorists........LET'S KEEP ROLLING!!!!!!

We have a long way to go yet and it is not going to get any easier.

848 posted on 11/29/2001 3:07:57 AM PST by Inge_CAV
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To: cgk
Free Republic is funded solely by donations from readers.
Donations and official correspondence should be mailed to:

Free Republic, LLC,
PO Box 9771, Fresno, CA
93794

849 posted on 11/29/2001 3:08:23 AM PST by uglybiker
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To: DCBryan1
I'd be willing to pay more...Hell, AOL charges me 20 bucks a month!

It doesn't have to be a pay-for site for you to give $10 or more per month.
850 posted on 11/29/2001 3:08:42 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Hey JimRob, after this is done, can we keep Harry Callahan? He's a good guy.

Re-lose Arator and Mojo though -- of course it doesn't even look like Mojo has the balls to come over here, so that's a moot issue.

851 posted on 11/29/2001 3:09:20 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: ARA
I don't go alone with banning vanities. Some very high quality thinking and research can be found there. Or at least that's the way it used to be.

If the people shredded inane vanities, the way Freepers used to do, people would think twice before misusing the privilege.

If we demand the excellence that used to be the norm here we will get it.

852 posted on 11/29/2001 3:10:29 AM PST by wewillnotfail
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Surely the correct spelling is CALLAGHAN...
853 posted on 11/29/2001 3:11:20 AM PST by jjbrouwer
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To: uglybiker
BTT,,How are you toots?? ;-)
854 posted on 11/29/2001 3:13:56 AM PST by Neets
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To: Lazamataz
What is p***y?
855 posted on 11/29/2001 3:15:04 AM PST by jjbrouwer
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To: Askel5
Perhaps you've been confused by our current state of affairs into thinking those that "fight the good fight" should always stand to make some money on the deal.
Should always? Nah. Should in general? Heck yeah.

Making money is an incentive and a reward. In a perfect world, people should be rewarded for fighting the good fight. It would give incentive for more people to fight the good fight.

What can I say? I am a capitalist.

856 posted on 11/29/2001 3:15:16 AM PST by Hugh Akston
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To: Lazamataz
Hi Laz,

I won't be sticking around long anyway, so don't bother da boss man on my account. In the meantime....

Hi everybody!

857 posted on 11/29/2001 3:15:52 AM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: staytrue
Now you find 200 post threads with nothing but one liner insults.

You're just illustrating that Barbra Streisand song about not remembering the way things were--unless you're talking about pre-mid-1998 days. As long ago as July 1998 most of every long thread consisted of one-liner insults, quips, and chat. In fact, that's what made most of those long threads long, posters going off on their own conversational tangents or flame wars.
858 posted on 11/29/2001 3:17:21 AM PST by aruanan
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To: OneidaM
Just on my way out of the house. Gotta make some money for the next fundraiser!
859 posted on 11/29/2001 3:17:23 AM PST by uglybiker
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To: jjbrouwer
What is p***y?

If I have to explain it, you've never seen one.

It is a party.

860 posted on 11/29/2001 3:18:34 AM PST by Lazamataz
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