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Posted on 11/19/2001 2:03:57 PM PST by FF578

Has anyone noticed that the Liberal influence has spread here into Free Republic. I notice that less and less Conservatives seem to post here, and more and more Libertarians seem to be.

I get a letter from someone named NYpeanut who is mad because I posted a discussion based on the Gender Gap in voting.

I didn't make it up, there is really a huge Gender gap with Female Voters tending toward the more liberal candidate. The discussion went well without name calling, but this person seems to have taken issue to the fact that I pointed out women seem to vote more liberally than men.

All those who are newbies here are considered disruptors, and those who hold a more right-winged view than the average libertarian seem to be kicked out.

Why is this? Is this a Libertarian site now?

I have noticed more and more posters standing up for Abortion, Homosexuality, the Porn Industry and Drugs since I first came to this site back before the 2000 Election.

Are Christian Conservatives(Who make up a large part of the Republican core vote) not allowed here anymore?

Just because one holds to a higher power, and wishes to shape society in accordance with the laws of Almighty God, does not make one a Taliban Milita member.


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To: Bella_Bru
PLease tell me you are not so stupid to think that porn did not exist before the 60's? If you honestly believe this, I have a book full of porn photos from the 1910's and '20s. You may enjoy it.

I know you didn't address that to me, and I don't believe porn is some recent invention. But can I still see the book? Please?

Pretty please???

141 posted on 11/19/2001 2:48:17 PM PST by shempy
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To: thusevertotyrants
And, the perrenial winners of The Darwin Awards are....!-)
142 posted on 11/19/2001 2:48:27 PM PST by beowolf
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To: phil1750
whoa hang on just a minute - youve hit the nail on the head - you say that the law has a voice when someone wants to infringe on your rights - how about your right to choose -- Let's go back to heaven and hell and the Judeo Christian deity - remember there is heaven and hell and man must choose - If my morality is against your god, then let him judge me - unless you consider yourself to be able to sit in his place during his absence
143 posted on 11/19/2001 2:48:57 PM PST by thusevertotyrants
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To: FF578
Would you like to rename this site to the "Limited Free Republic." The current name gives the impression that anyone who is interested in a Free Republic can find a home here.

I believe in states rights, the Second Ammenment, small Government, reduced taxation, far less state welfare, capitial punishment and a whole bunch of other things that people identify with conservatives. I have voted Repulican all my life. I believe in the Freedom to pursue life, liberty and happiness on an idivitual basis. I also believe that most of you want this also.

Yet, there are some of you who wish to curtail the freedoms of others. Freedoms such a free choice for women, freedom for homosexuals to live their lives with liberty and happiness, freedom for women to live as equals, freedom for people read what makes them happy, etc. If this site is exclusively for those that hold beliefs in both the first and second catagories, then it really should be named the "Limited Free Republic" since the site really would stand for LIMITED freedom. If the site can benefit from members who believe in the first catagory but not the second, then the current name is justified.

It has been my experience that there only a few members who truely hold to the beliefs in the second catagory. However, it does seem that those very few speak in a loud voice just like the minority liberal protestors we hear and see our street corners.

144 posted on 11/19/2001 2:49:04 PM PST by pcl
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To: wardaddy
Well said.
145 posted on 11/19/2001 2:49:09 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg
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To: FF578; nocommies
How many different IDs do you have, anyway?

FF578 member since November 13th, 2001

nocommies member since March 17th, 2001

146 posted on 11/19/2001 2:49:29 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: Bella_Bru
Amazing how some think we should all walk lockstep together, eh?

Life is pretty boring in an echo chamber. It's all about discourse. It would be pretty dull around here if people posted articles followed by 250 replies that said nothing but "bump" or "bttt".

147 posted on 11/19/2001 2:49:44 PM PST by Sandshark
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To: IronJack
However, FR seems to be remarkably homeostatic.

Hey! I ain't no homeostatual!

(Not that there's anything wrong with that....)

148 posted on 11/19/2001 2:49:54 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: KillerWabbit
Huh??
149 posted on 11/19/2001 2:50:20 PM PST by EggsAckley
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To: beowolf
last time I heard it was the guy who put a rocket engine on his late moel car and was found plastered about 500 feet up a cliff wall
150 posted on 11/19/2001 2:50:43 PM PST by thusevertotyrants
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To: sirgawain
How many hard core Bush supporters can you name that's been banned?

None that I can think of. Maybe that's because we don't get so pissed off that we lose control...or maybe its because we aren't as passionate about our cause as the Brigadiers or the paleocons...

It could also be a result of the paleo-cons taking their balls and going elsewhere. Arator sent me an email advising of a new paleo-con friendly site that has opened for business. Even though I am a "Bushie", Arator and I eventually got along pretty well. Who knows. Maybe there has been a rash of bannings that have depleted the paleos ranks. Maybe they are just taking a break from FR. Maybe the libertarians are just being extra active. We do have a lot of new posters. Maybe its a combination of things, including the paleos not really having to say anything (as opposed to having nothing to say). Somefolks don't post when they have nothing to say. (Wish the same could be said for those who start the vanities that turn into cheese or moose threads.)

Maybe, they are all out working and are too busy to surf FR. Time will tell. I'm sure they will be back.

151 posted on 11/19/2001 2:50:57 PM PST by RayBob
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To: FF578
The 'problem' if there is one, seems to be that many people discover FR and think that they've found heaven with so many posters agreeing with their views. Then, when they begin to post, they find that FR is like any other place in this here USA...mostly great but with some intolerence and not a slim dose of down-right nastiness!

Having survived some of the truly nuclear flame wars, it is my observation that if one posts only to intelligent threads and avoids responding to juvenile name-calling and personal attacks, one can very often still find stimulating discourse.

152 posted on 11/19/2001 2:51:22 PM PST by LisaFab
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To: FF578; nopardons
Well FF578....looks like this thread may pull all our foes outta their nests. I have to go home. I look forward to reviewing this one manana if it's still here. You've got some good help on this thread if you need it.

Remember it's higher authority morality versus theirs which is up to the individual. Sort of like those Hebrew National Frankfurter commercials...chin up!!!! Nopardons, I apologize for bailing on you so early in the fight.

153 posted on 11/19/2001 2:51:43 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: nicmarlo
I will comment, however, on the fact that there are quite a few "liberal" opinions here which sound more like the democRat stance than what I would call the traditional Republican platform

I just don't see the value in a forum that allows only one type of thought. That sounds like demonrats.com - I can't count the times I've been banned from them for putting forth (gasp) opposing views.

It is of great value to confront opposing views and either defeat the view with fact and logic, or agree to investigate the view more thoroughly due to an inability to refute the fact and logic of the view.

Of course you get a lot of "I'm right/you're wrong"s with no fact or logic behind them - but that's just cop outs in evidence- ie folks who refuse to open their minds to another view but are unable to articulate the reasons for their rejection of a view.

WHat I like about FR is that I can persuade and be persuaded through debate.

I loathe those name callers though- the diminish the value of FR. I also greatly dislike those who assert a position, cannot defend it, then switch to the liberal name calling game. THose people are to be fully ignored.

In summary, I enjoy reading, debating, refuting, and learning. I am confident that the conservative/libertarian position is far more buttressed by fact and logic- so I would predict that FR will stay that way. We're in a swing right now. Maybe DU has a cyber-al qaeda after us?!

154 posted on 11/19/2001 2:52:00 PM PST by Principled
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To: FF578; Khepera
I'm glad you two have met each other. Firstly, try to slow down your breathing.

Secondly. repeal the 19th Amendment. ;^)

Thirdly, God didn't grow any bad plants. :^)

Fourthly, really, really try to slow down your breathing. ;^)

(All in good fun) ;^)

155 posted on 11/19/2001 2:52:08 PM PST by headsonpikes
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To: Billthedrill
Because bad memories fade with time? Drugs? Booze?!-)
156 posted on 11/19/2001 2:52:52 PM PST by beowolf
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To: RayBob
Somefolks don't post when they have nothing to say. (Wish the same could be said for those who start the vanities that turn into cheese or moose threads.)

Amen Brother!

157 posted on 11/19/2001 2:53:15 PM PST by LisaFab
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To: Arkinsaw
I would say overwhelmingly Christian but some were a bit philosophical about it and obviously rejected a state established church....sorry I can't stay and rant with the rest of ya'll but I gotta go.
158 posted on 11/19/2001 2:53:27 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: Hank Rearden
shut down the stupid, useless War on Drugs & Liberty right now.Funny how someone would pick out an idividual unsupported freedom and think it makes him a libertarian.

I smoke pot = I love freedom ?

159 posted on 11/19/2001 2:53:37 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: OneidaM
The answer can be found: HERE

You made my day.. LOL

160 posted on 11/19/2001 2:53:38 PM PST by Gracey
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