Posted on 09/25/2001 1:31:33 PM PDT by Doctor Freeze
Maybe a Jewish Freeper can help me understand this...
Why is there a Mosque on the Temple Mount? As a Christian, I have always heard that the Ark of the Covenant used to be located on the Temple Mount (in King Solomon's temple?) and that the rock that Abraham was going to sacrifice Isaac on is on the Temple Mount.
Excuse my ignorance, but why doesn't Israel make it priority number one to retake the Temple Mount? It is holy to us Christians too!!! Thanks for any insight on this basic question that I don't know the answer to.
God Bless
Well, I've got news for you. We already may be on the brink of the Third World War. A lot depends on what happens in Pakistan. If Pakistan gos belly up into civil war, then we could see the whole Middle East go up in flames. Once that happens, all bets are off. Then, I couldn't care less if Israel takes over the Dome of the Rock.
Ah yes. The famous theologan woollyone, expert on all matters Muslim. So then why has there been a shrine and a mosque there for over 1300 years if it is so unimportant? And just out of curiosity can you tell me how many times Fatima, Lourdes, and Salt Lake City are mentioned in the Bible or the Book of Mormon? None, nada. I suppose that that means the reverence that Catholics and Mormons hold to those sites means nothing, too.
Actually, I never have understood why the Jews couldn't just construct a new Tabernacle instead. The Torah never commanded that a Temple be built; rather, it establishes very detailed instructions for the construction of the Tabernacle (which could pretty much be located almost anywhere). The Temple was a later idea of David & Solomon, something that was not commanded, but rather accepted, by Yahweh.
The best guess that I can venture is this:
The modern Orthodox Jews are the spiritual descendents of the Pharisees. Their religious doctrines are not solely derived from the Torah, but rather from the traditions that have grown up around them and codified in the Talmud. While I do not know this for sure, I wouldn't be surprised to find that the reason(s) for insisting on not building a new Tabernacle, but rather holding out for a new Temple, would be found in the Talmud rather than in the Torah. Correct me, somebody, if I am mistaken.
I'll have a few more references after I cruise through my library (which I can't do at this moment) and will ping you with the information. As far as online referrences, I don't have much to offer, as most of the information I've read is from printed (as opposed to digital) text. I do know that Joseph Farah (who happens to be Arab by birth & Christian by choice)at WND has written some excellent articles on this subject though. Here's a few examples...
what is a palestinian?
myths of the middle east
more myths of the middle east
you can order FTI by Peters at the WND site (it is currently out of print, so your local bookstore will have a tough time locating it; I tried that, 'cause others have wanted copies too).
baa
Contradiction in terms oh unwise one! Theology is the study of God, not of false gods, as in Allah (one of the many Arab idols that Mohammed just happened to pick to worship as the most high god; as opposed to the false gods of wood and stone) and the false jesus (alleged brother of satan) as preached by Mormons. Mohammed was a false prophet. To prove my point, cite one (just one) prophecy that Mohammed uttered (surah and verse please) that was fulfilled (of course other than the one where he said that he would go to medina, which was self-fullfilled).
"...Fatima, Lourdes, and Salt Lake City..."
Again, through your alleged superior wisom, please show where I ever claimed that these places were reserved as holy, except in the hearts of Catholics and Muslims (of which, I am not).
There are some things in the Bible that are just so unbelievable that we are astonished when we read them. It is great when we get to see them with our own eyes though. Take you for instance Non-sequitur and the story of Balamm's donkey. Who'da though that we'd all get to see you as a talking jackass in our own lifetimes? I guess it can happen!
That said, show us all, in your supreior intellect (and smarmy, pride-filled sarcasm), where Jerusalem is mentioned by name in the Koran (Surah and verse please!). Until the Muslim invasion of the city, no muslims cared about the city as the third most holy site; that didn't happen until the 20th century. Trace, if you are able (with sources, Mr. Balaam's donkey), one instance of Jerusalem being cited as the third most holy site in Islam. I await your carnal and vacuuous response.
baa
Although I know it's not worth responding to a moron like you,
I have to say that might upset the Turks,
who have been loyal allies of the USA since 1945
far more loyal than Israel.
(They never attacked any US ships.)
2. I believe that Jews cannot step foot on the Temple Mount for fear of stepping on the "Holy of Holies," (Kadosh haKadosh) i.e., the inner-most sanctuary where the Ark of Covenant rested and where only the high priests were allowed to venture under strict commands and conditions on Yom Kippur (ironically, Yom Kippur starts at sundown tomorrow).
3. If I recall properly, this is *NOT* where Abraham was instructed to sacrifice Isaac (but I could be wrong).
Israel, I believe, already has control over it technically but is reluctant to do anything with it for fear of inflaming the situation. (Don't you remember the unbelievable uproar when I think it was Perez who toured the site...?)
There apparently is a group of what would be considered ultra-orthodox Jews who believe in restoring the Temple immediately and in restarting the animal sacrifices referenced in the Bible...
No, you're right. I'm fairly certain that the sacrifices are only good in the Temple which obviously no longer exists (yet to be rebuilt).
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