Posted on 09/14/2025 1:27:18 AM PDT by Freeleesy
Immediately after the murder of Charlie Kirk, Israeli street artist Dudi Shoval set out to memorialize the defender of Israel and Judeo-Christian values in a mural in Ashdod.

(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...
I also saw an Israeli mayor is pushing to name a town square after Kirk. And he was due to visit Israel in a few weeks if he hadn’t been killed. And yet I’ve seen anti-semites and leftists running around lying about his love and support for Israel.
thumbs up!
I'm still working on some other stuff re the name "Charlie", but this is something out of left field that demands my immediate attention. Interesting considering the general theological divide, but you know... in a weird word way play, every town square is already named (called, sounded) after "Kirk".
As in, town squares are named Kikar this, Kikar that.
כִּכָּר ~ כיכר
kikar
square
square, plaza, circus; roundabout
https://www.pealim.com/dict/5391-kikar/
I always got a "kick" out of the usage [as a "square"], because the word is based on a circle:
כִּכָּר kikkâr, kik-kawr'; from H3769; a circle, i.e. (by implication) a circumjacent tract or region, especially the Ghor or valley of the Jordan; also a (round) loaf; also a talent (or large [round] coin):—loaf, morsel, piece, plain, talent.
Also on that page under Gesenius' Hebrew-Chaldee Lexicon,
"To this there agree in the western languages, circus, circulus..."
The surname "Kirk" itself means church, but the etymologies of words like circle do pull right in. Ancient Greek kirkos (κίρκος) and so forth.
Now I've been really busy with painting and haven't even had a chance to post it (or maybe I wasn't going to bother), but I've already got the diagram of the squared circle alchemical symbol calculated with the way it works out for the very close rounded numbers for all the areas. Talk about a treasure trove of fundamental mathematical values and their traditional spiritual associations.
It was really easy too, because they work out very close to their fractional values. After all, the symbol is about concepts, not like it's rocket science.
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The squared circle: an alchemical symbol (17th century) illustrating the interplay of the four elements of matter symbolising the philosopher's stone
After all, what's in a name?
The name Charles means "free man", and
"Charles James Kirk"
Leans heavily toward a mission statement
to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilization, to boldly go where no man has gone before.
Any wonder he was targeted by the Romulans??
If a man’s first and last name are both Square, could he then be referred to as Square squared?
If a square is dedicated to him, it would be Square Square Square, or Square cubed.
Yep - it’s spreading...
If a man’s first and last name are both Square, could he then be referred to as Square squared?Love your angle on this. Be there or be square!
If a square is dedicated to him, it would be Square Square Square, or Square cubed.
You must be tapped in because it's just like what's on the alchemical symbol, the bookends holding the ball in its place of the square:
Exodus 313 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
Oh sure...
אהיה "אשׁר" אהיה
21 - happiness - 21
21 squared = 441 = truth [אמת]
Beware the Boss with a middle name in quotes. It's a warning right up there with:

(a moving tribute)
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A Turning Point? The Death of Charlie Kirk and the Possible Collapse of Progressive Ideology
By The Hermit
History often moves not in steady, predictable steps but in sudden lurches—shaped by moments so symbolic, so emotionally charged, that they become catalysts for greater change. For some, the assassination of President John F. Kennedy in 1963 marked such a turning point: the end of postwar American innocence, the beginning of deep national mistrust, and the slow unraveling of the consensus that had defined mid-century America.
Now, six decades later, we may be witnessing the other bookend to that era.
The death of Charlie Kirk, a leading voice of youthful conservative activism, has sent shockwaves through American political culture. While history will need time to assign meaning to this event, one must ask: could this be the moment when conservatives finally say, “Enough”? Could it mark the beginning of the end of Progressive ideological dominance in the United States?
The Context of a Fractured Nation
For years, the American political left—broadly represented by progressive ideology—has expanded its influence across nearly all major institutions: education, media, entertainment, corporate HR departments, even certain religious communities. In many of these areas, dissenting views were not just discouraged but aggressively marginalized. Conservatives, for the most part, either adapted quietly or withdrew—sometimes creating their own spaces, sometimes conceding ground entirely.
But there’s a growing sense that something fundamental has shifted. The quiet majority is no longer so quiet. The outrage over cultural upheaval, institutional overreach, and the erosion of national identity has turned into a simmering anger. And now, with the death of Charlie Kirk, that anger may reach a boiling point.
Charlie Kirk as a Symbol
Charlie Kirk was not just a political commentator—he was a symbol of generational pushback. Unlike older conservatives often on the defensive, Kirk represented a new, unapologetic right that refused to cede moral ground to progressivism. He spoke directly to young people, challenged the left’s control of academia, and dared to confront institutional narratives. Whether one agreed with his rhetoric or not, his influence was undeniable.
If JFK’s death accelerated the fragmentation of American unity and opened the door to the cultural revolution of the late ‘60s and ‘70s, Kirk’s death may have the inverse effect: a unifying event for conservative resurgence, a moment of collective realization that passivity is no longer an option.
Is Progressivism Now Overextended?
Every ideology, when pushed too far, begins to falter under the weight of its own contradictions. Progressivism once stood for noble goals: civil rights, equality under the law, and fair opportunity. But in recent years, many believe it has mutated into something far more divisive—redefining language, punishing dissent, and promoting a moral superiority that alienates as much as it persuades.
We see this overreach in policies that prioritize illegal immigrants over citizens, in efforts to rewrite history, and in the erasure of traditional values that once unified communities. The backlash is already visible: increasing political polarization, growing distrust in media, and the rise of grassroots conservative movements across the country.
The death of Charlie Kirk may solidify that backlash into a coherent force.
A New Conservative Awakening?
Unlike the reaction to JFK’s death, which fractured a generation, the reaction to Kirk’s death may consolidate one. This time, it’s not about radical rebellion—but restoration. Not revolution—but return. A return to principles: limited government, free speech, individual responsibility, and national sovereignty.
Could Kirk’s death mark the beginning of a new conservative awakening? That remains to be seen. But the mood is changing. The ground beneath the progressive movement appears less solid. The appeal to institutional power—once seen as a strength—is now seen by many as an abuse. People are waking up, and they are not happy with what they see.
Conclusion: The Bookends of a Cultural Era?
From JFK to Kirk, we may indeed be witnessing the closing of a long and painful chapter in American political life. One that began with hope, spiraled into division, and now may find resolution in renewal.
Whether the death of Charlie Kirk becomes a true turning point in history is something only time will tell. But if it is, it will be because millions of Americans—quiet for too long—decided that the time for silence had ended.
They remembered what it meant to love their country, and they chose to fight for it.
I'd have to go with Little Richard on this one.
The girl can't help it -- she make Grandpa feel like 21.
😇
(I'll let myself out..)
You beat me to it...I was also struck by the significance of the etymology of this name. Don’t forget that St. James, the source of this middle name, was the first of the apostles to be martyred.
A search on
charlie kirk gen z
begat:
AI Overview
Recent events surrounding Charlie Kirk and Gen Z are centered on his assassination on September 10, 2025, and his significant impact on young conservatives through his organization, Turning Point USA. Kirk's death occurred during a campus event at Utah Valley University and has been called a "watershed" moment for Generation Z.
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Hebrew for "Gen Z" is Dor ha-Z, "Z-דור ה"
But in order to add it all up, the Latin letter "Z" in Hebrew is "זי", ergo
דור ה-זי
= 232
The first place in the Torah where the sum appears as a word or word string is in the middle of Gen 1:3 (drop it here to see)..
בראשית 1:3
ויאמר אלהים *יהי אור* ויהי אור
Genesis 1:3 And God said, *Let there be light*: and there was light.
It's looking like Gen Z has been charged with the clean-up on aisle 12. Like it never even happened.
Makes simple sense, because you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Or as the Biblical analogy goes,
New wine goes into new wineskins.
I'm a kid at heart so maybe I can simply "identify as" one of them.
To hear a "dor" [דּוֹר] is to hear a door. ~ Kids
How beautiful.
[[If a square is dedicated to him, it would be Square Square Square, or Square cubed.]]
Wouldn5 it be more “Square Triangulated? With jjust 3 squares?”
I love that.
Candace Owens has been trying to cast Kirk’s last podcast (with Ben Shapiro) as showing anti-Israel beliefs. No, it was the opposite. It was intentional prep for hard questions about Israel.
Kirk literally says the purpose was to prep against anti-Israeli people.
And yet, Owens and Tucker Qataralson try to dishonestly spin it to the opposite using sound bites.
Charlie was very big in Israel and, surprisingly, in Poland, which are two of my favorite countries.
Maybe, but if he is a Squire then it would be Square Square Squire Square.
“I’m still working on some other stuff re the name “Charlie”........”
How about that French Cartoon satire paper that was attacked by the ragheads.......
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