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When Homer Becomes Hate Speech
Taki's ^ | September 03, 2025 | Spencer Davis

Posted on 09/03/2025 2:24:39 AM PDT by Salman

A civilization confident in itself reads the Iliad. A civilization in decline denounces it. Guess which one we are.

A confident civilization does not quake at the sight of Homer. It does not avert its gaze from Pericles or issue trigger warnings before mentioning Caesar. It does not treat the Iliad like some toxic spill to be cordoned off by hazmat crews. Yet ours does. As Victor Davis Hanson and John Heath warned in Who Killed Homer?, the gravest threat to the classics is not public indifference but professors themselves—men and women who, having ceased to teach Homer, now cower before him.

The new orthodoxy insists the ancients are perilous. Donna Zuckerberg, sister of the better-known Mark, solemnly warns that the “alt-right” is mainlining Plato as a gateway narcotic to fascism. Curtis Dozier and Patrice Rankine join the chorus: To admire Achilles is apparently to goose-step straight to Charlottesville. Mary Beard, once a formidable scholar, now devotes her days to rebuking anyone rash enough to suggest the West owes anything to Greece and Rome. Donald Kagan, who for decades taught Yale undergrads their Thucydides, foresaw this decay—the impulse to regard antiquity not as civilization’s accumulated wisdom but as an ideological contaminant, a cultural bat virus to be locked down and quarantined.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: ancientnavigation; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; homer; iliad; liberaltruth; odyssey; plato; r
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To: Salman
quote Cicero and you might as well be spray-painting swastikas.

Way back to Barry Goldwater's time, he got in trouble for quoting Cicero ("Extremism in defense of Liberty is no vice.")

Of course, JFK famously quoted him as well ("Ask not what your country can do for you...")

Beats the heck out of "Yeeeargggg!" (Howard Dean) and "We can see what is possible unburdened by what has been," (Kamala Harris), and "Corn Pop was a bad dude. No joke!" (Joe Biden)

Trump has his own, but I give him a pass as "Performance Art" ("Covfefe") that is winking at the false sanctimony of the lefty (and RINO) hucksters.
21 posted on 09/03/2025 6:43:04 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...

22 posted on 09/03/2025 7:04:57 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (NeverTrumpin' -- it's not just for DNC shills anymore -- oh, wait, yeah it is.)
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To: Salman

23 posted on 09/03/2025 7:07:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

‘that journey’ ?

you know their destination?

off coast ship?
canal zone?


24 posted on 09/03/2025 7:21:00 AM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives )
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To: aumrl

Nope. We have to go with what Trump/Marco says.


25 posted on 09/03/2025 8:41:47 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: Salman; All

I’ve had custody of my 15-yo granddaughter for her entire life. Since Kindergarten, she’s been in a charter school that teaches American values and honors the Founding Fathers. They teach-and enforce-honor and integrity. Two years of Western Civ is required to graduate.
They employ phonics and also teach Latin. The students read-and report on-the Iliad and the Odyssey along with Ovid’s Metamorphoses.
Next year, in her junior year, the entire class will study the Roman Republic-in ROME!


26 posted on 09/03/2025 8:59:40 AM PDT by mozarky2 (Ya never stand so tall as when ya stoop to stomp a statist...)
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To: left that other site

A suitable punishment for not cooking a whale tail by holding it in one hand and showing it a hot coal in the other...


27 posted on 09/03/2025 10:17:54 AM PDT by null and void (The only man in all of Scotland is a 14 year old girl...)
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To: null and void

LOL!

So yer shipping on the Pequod are ye?


28 posted on 09/03/2025 10:23:10 AM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know The Truth, and The Truth Shall Make You Free.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

Thank you, I’m glad I wasn’t the only one that thought this was about Homer SImpson.


29 posted on 09/03/2025 11:19:54 AM PDT by Doctor Congo
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To: Poison Pill
What is it about Wilson’s Iliad translation that you think is woke?

I have not read it. I am basing my statement on her translation of The Odyssey.

30 posted on 09/03/2025 11:55:59 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Salman
"It is vandalism."

What you said, Spencer.

31 posted on 09/03/2025 12:02:07 PM PDT by aspasia
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To: Salman

Maybe words provide a clue to the universe, especially the center of the word, like the very core of a note most in tune.


32 posted on 09/03/2025 12:06:45 PM PDT by aspasia
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To: left that other site

Next, they’ll be banning Moby Dick


Then there’s the Joseph Conrad novel whose name must not be uttered. And the movie remake of the Dam Busters is held up by an important character’s name.


33 posted on 09/03/2025 12:35:35 PM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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To: hanamizu

the one about Narcissus?


34 posted on 09/03/2025 12:44:36 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know The Truth, and The Truth Shall Make You Free.)
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To: left that other site

Call me Ishmael...


35 posted on 09/03/2025 2:18:36 PM PDT by null and void (The only man in all of Scotland is a 14 year old girl...)
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To: hanamizu

The dog?


36 posted on 09/03/2025 2:19:17 PM PDT by null and void (The only man in all of Scotland is a 14 year old girl...)
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To: null and void

The dog?


Yep. The dog whose name must never be uttered. Died the night before the raid.

Guy Gibson didn’t get much sleep that night. And to make matters even worse for the new movie, he used his dog’s name as the codeword for the successful breaching of the dam.

The RAF replaced his marker. The new one just calls him ‘The Dog’.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-66098422


37 posted on 09/03/2025 2:40:48 PM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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To: null and void

If you live anywhere near Southern New Engand, there is a reading of the whole book at the New Bedford Whaling Museum on Melville’s Birthday.

Unfortunately, it’s in January, (Brrrrrr)

Some of the “dignitaries” who read an assigned chapter, are quite good. others are perfectly execrable.

In my humble opinion, the best readers are the High School kids. They are usually assigned the last chapter.


38 posted on 09/03/2025 3:12:56 PM PDT by left that other site (You Shall Know The Truth, and The Truth Shall Make You Free.)
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To: hanamizu

The Dog?

They could have called him Schvartze, what better word than a German derived Yiddish word meaning black person to celebrate the destruction of the Ruhr dams?


39 posted on 09/03/2025 7:31:26 PM PDT by null and void (The only man in all of Scotland is a 14 year old girl...)
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To: aumrl

I think it was to Mexico and they had on the ground intelligence. So far the Left and the Venezualans have not jumped up screaming about innocent people just out for a cruise.


40 posted on 09/04/2025 5:58:51 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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