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The rise in mail voting comes with a price, as mismatched signatures lead to ballot rejections
Channel 3000 News/AP ^ | December 31, 2024 | AP Bitter LOSERS

Posted on 12/31/2024 7:47:51 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

As with many voters on Maui, Joshua Kamalo thought the race for president wasn't the only big contest on the November ballot. He also was focused on a hotly contested seat for the local governing board.

He made sure to return his ballot in the virtually all vote-by-mail state early, doing so two weeks before Election Day. A week later, he received a letter telling him the county couldn’t verify his signature on the return envelope, jeopardizing his vote.

And he wasn't the only one. Two other people at the biodiesel company where he works also had their ballots rejected, as did his daughter. In each case, the county said their signatures didn't match the ones on file. “I don’t know how they fix that, but I don’t think it’s right,” said Kamalo, a truck driver who persevered through traffic congestion and limited parking options to get to the county office so he could sign an affidavit affirming that the signature was indeed his.

He said he probably wouldn’t have bothered to fix it if the South Maui county council race wasn’t so close. The co-founder of his employer, Pacific Biodiesel, was the candidate who ended up on the losing side.

Kamalo's experience is part of a broader problem as mail voting rises in popularity and more states opt to send ballots to all voters. Matching signatures on returned mail ballot envelopes to the official ones recorded at local voting offices can be a tedious process, sometimes done by humans and sometimes through automation, and can lead to dozens, hundreds or even thousands of ballots being rejected.

If the voter can't correct it in time, the ballot won't count.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: fraud; mailinballots
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“There’s been a big push toward mail voting over the last few years, and I think the tradeoffs aren’t always clear to voters,” said Larry Norden, an elections and government expert at the Brennan Center for Justice.

He said it's important for states and local governments to have procedures that ensure large numbers of eligible mail ballot voters aren't being disenfranchised.

1 posted on 12/31/2024 7:47:51 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I guess this explains Heels Up Harris’ loss. *SMIRK*


2 posted on 12/31/2024 7:48:36 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have, 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

He made sure to return his ballot in the virtually all vote-by-mail state early, doing so two weeks before Election Day. A week later, he received a letter telling him the county couldn’t verify his signature on the return envelope, jeopardizing his vote.

And he wasn’t the only one. Two other people at the biodiesel company where he works also had their ballots rejected, as did his daughter. In each case, the county said their signatures didn’t match the ones on file. “I don’t know how they fix that, but I don’t think it’s right,” said Kamalo, a truck driver who persevered through traffic congestion and limited parking options to get to the county office so he could sign an affidavit affirming that the signature was indeed his.


So the lesson is voting in person is better and just as easy. Wonder what he does next time?


3 posted on 12/31/2024 7:52:06 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

mismatched signatures lead to ballot rejections“

You can bet your house for every legitimate vote that gets kicked mail voting brings in 10 fraudulent votes.


4 posted on 12/31/2024 7:55:35 AM PST by iamgalt
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’ve mentioned this before: at my age, no two of my signatures actually match.


5 posted on 12/31/2024 8:00:42 AM PST by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Don’t worry. Most of them don’t get rejected even when the signatures mismatch.


6 posted on 12/31/2024 8:03:43 AM PST by Revel
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Absentee voting has been a feature for years, hundreds of thousands are used for military folks. It is the introduction of routine mailin ballots (at insistence of the corrupt Demo party) with crappy security (by design) that leads to this mess.

Want to fix? Well, file for an absentee ballot. It is like entering the country legally. Tiresome but secure. It is the illegal and criminal behavior that mucks things up.


7 posted on 12/31/2024 8:04:15 AM PST by bobbo666
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To: iamgalt

You can bet your house for every legitimate vote that gets kicked mail voting brings in 10 fraudulent votes.

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Yes.
I think, that is the reason they encourage it.
Mail in vote is so prone to cheating, that somebody must design it that way!
Yes, it is easy, and probably rises voter participation, but nothing beats in person vote!


8 posted on 12/31/2024 8:04:25 AM PST by AZJeep
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Was it Stalin who said, “It’s not who votes, but who counts the votes.” That’s why DemocRATs push mail in voting.


9 posted on 12/31/2024 8:05:15 AM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

NO ONE IS DISENFRANCHIZED its like banning books, women’s health AKA abortion, racism, all the phobia’s, social justice DEI, CRT all rat labels. People either vote or they dont. The rats would like it best of they could vote for thier “disenfranchised voter” which they do to steal an election


10 posted on 12/31/2024 8:06:02 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Mail voting = Biden won

DNC mum


11 posted on 12/31/2024 8:09:48 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Voter registration cards, driver’s licenses and state IDs could have election verification codes printed on them:

26432 28903 30132 32517 34831

Birthdates might be useful.


12 posted on 12/31/2024 8:35:30 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: ComputerGuy

I’m 80....no way any of my signatures match my original registration. And as for signing on an IPAD...who the hell are they kidding...the lady said they match the squiggles. Yeh right...


13 posted on 12/31/2024 8:35:38 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

What about all those who don’t learn cursive? It’s not mandatory to teach cursive in 26 states currently. Further, there are very good cursive generator programs these days. What happens when the ability to copy and replicate electronically becomes more sophisticated?


14 posted on 12/31/2024 8:37:28 AM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Hi D in W. The US, well, the civilized world, for that matter, has had super-reliable daily mail service (sometimes twice a day) since about 1800.

Electronic conveyance of information by telegraph, television, telephone, or email has been super-reliable since oh, 1870.

Instantaneous communication of one's choice of candidate in an election has been, in principle, if sender and receiver are honest, error-free, for 150 years. By daily mail, 225 years.

THE REASON we still insist on voting registration, and in-person voting, where humans can eyeball each other to verify a real person casting a real vote, is because... PEOPLE ARE CHEATING BASTARDS! And the ENTIRE Rat party either cheats, or is OK with a vote tally that incorportates wholesale or total cheating, to the exclusion of a fair result.

Rats don't care if their side cheats, so long as they get away cleanly with it. In fact, they delight in it. They delight in our cowardice and unwillingness to confront them for it. They are AMAZED that we not only allow it, but want to perfect it. They can barely contain their laughter at us.

There is a reason why there are locks on doors. There is a reason why there are ignitions with keyed switches on cars. There is a reason there are padlocks on lockers. There is a reason there are computer passwords for bank accounts. There is a reason there are ID cards with photographs on them of the legal bearer. There is a reason for notary publics who verify the identities of document-signers.

The reason?:

People will cheat if they can get away with it. Most, maybe all of them. Rats: All of them. In fact, Rats would rather cheat than not cheat, just for the fun of it.

People LIE and CHEAT, and the only difference between the Rats and non-Rats is that SOME, NOT ALL, of the non-Rats still acknowledge (for the moment at least) that CHEATING is wrong. And these few do not accede to it or approve of it.

Mail ballotting is a way to have cheating occur by the tri-axle load of ballots. By the landfill-full. By the planet-full.

What do non-Rats do when they see obvious, egregious cheating by the Rats? Nothing. Plus, they vocally deny that cheating is occurring.

Electoral cheating is so over the top, now and in the past 16 four-year election cycles that I can't believe that Kamala Harris is not now the POTUS-elect.

Yes, there have been sixteen (16) !! POTUS election cycles where there has been likely organized, conspiratorial cheating in the national elections that arguably have been significantly influenced or subverted by Rat cheating.

The Nixon-Kennedy election of 1960 is largely acknowledged to have been stolen, and there has been no significant improvement, revelation of a cheating scandal, or reorganization in security in subsequent elections to speak of. Nothing that might lead one to believe that the problem has been taken care of, or even looked into.

To say, as Larry Norden says above, that it is "important for states and local governments to have procedures that ensure large numbers of eligible mail ballot voters aren't being disenfranchised." is just so 180-degrees wrong that I don't know where to start to chip away at the man's lies and/or stupidity.

Perhaps the above rant will serve as at least a bugle call, a reveille. Maybe it's a death rattle of a single person, me. We need to all get onboard immediately that mail in voting, except for quadruple amputees on ECMO, is absolutely, permanently banned. No 'harvesting', no busloads of retarded people driven to the polls, no voting machines plugged into the internet and communicating with an IP address in Spain. If people are too stupid to get all of the above, then, well, maybe we need to consider dissolving elections.

Just have an Oprah show every four years in November where the candidates tell their stories, and at the end the audience votes for POTUS.

Happy New Year, D in W!

15 posted on 12/31/2024 8:44:27 AM PST by caddie
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Its rife with fraud from the democraps. Hell, they should be using blockchain technology where everyone can see the votes on a digital public ledger; which the democraps will fight tooth and nail.


16 posted on 12/31/2024 8:48:06 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Two simple solutions to this problem:

1. Don’t allow mail-in voting.

2. Make voters register every year. This will eliminate the problem with signatures that change over time.

17 posted on 12/31/2024 8:57:41 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Well, maybe I'm a little rough around the edges; inside a little hollow.” -- Tom Petty, “Rebels”)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
A week later, he received a letter telling him the county couldn’t verify his signature on the return envelope, jeopardizing his vote. ... And he wasn't the only one. Two other people at the biodiesel company where he works also had their ballots rejected, as did his daughter.

They probably all voted Republican. In all seriousness though, mail-in voting is ripe for massive fraud, like 2020.

18 posted on 12/31/2024 9:03:33 AM PST by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Do away with mail-in balloting altogether with only two exceptions:
1) USA citizens that are out of the country
2) the verifiably infirm or disabled USA citizens.

Everyone else get off your a$$ and vote in person. Early voting is OK so long as it is for a limited time say 5-10 days.

Another thing: the left crows about how well mail-in voting works in WA ignoring the fact that the number of D voters far overwhelms the chances of any R candidate. It does not matter if the mail-in ballots are valid or not in WA because the number of correct ballots will carry the day.

I am of the opinion that WA is where the Ds hatched and honed the needed methods of ‘ballot acquisition’ that are put in play around the country each election.


19 posted on 12/31/2024 9:13:40 AM PST by ByteMercenary (Cho Bi Dung and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The biggest problem was when dimocrats discovered the word “disenfranchised”!


20 posted on 12/31/2024 9:53:13 AM PST by 100%FEDUP
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