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Romanian Government Concedes Bear Relocation Does Not Work
AmmoLand ^ | July 22, 2024 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/24/2024 4:10:39 AM PDT by marktwain

On July 10, 2024, a 19-year-old tourist woman and her boyfriend hiking in Romania were attacked by a European brown bear. The couple was on the emergency phone line with authorities as the woman and man followed directions on how to handle a bear. The woman was attacked, dragged off, killed, and partially eaten. The bear attacked authorities attempting to recover the body and was shot and killed.

The European brown bear in Romania is a sub-species of the worldwide population of brown bears. The species includes the North American Grizzly, the Japanese Ussuri brown bear, the Kodiak bear, and the European brown bear in Russia. All are part of the same species, with the primary variation caused by the availability of food. Where food is plentiful, such as along salmon streams, the bears become very large. In mountainous regions, the bears tend to be smaller, with average mature boars at about 400-500 lbs.

In Eastern Europe, there is a large population of grizzly/European/brown bears. Romanian has over 8,000 heavily protected bears. They have been increasing and causing increasing problems. The Romanian population is four times larger than the population of Grizzly bears in the lower 48 states. The population in the lower 48 is concentrated around the Greater Yellowstone Ecosystem and Glacier National Park. From aussiedlerbote.de:

Approximately 8000 brown bears live in the Carpathians of Romania – and they continue to attack hikers. In one of these attacks, a 19-year-old woman has died. The young tourist was dragged away by the wild animal in the south of Brasov, in the Bucegi-Massif, according to an eyewitness who placed a call after the incident. This was reported by the Romanian news agency Mediafax.

Less than an hour later on Tuesday evening, mountain rescuers and police recovered the woman’s body. They reportedly shot


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; bear; bearrepublic; bears; bearsrepeating; brownbears; grizzly; hunting; romania; thingsiworryabout; unbearable
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When you forbid people from protecting themselves from bears, bears become more common and more people are attacked.
1 posted on 07/24/2024 4:10:39 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Relocation works when done properly and yes folks should be able to protect themselves. I carry around my yard with access to larger arms as needed. Mainly for hogs but we have bear around weekly but usually take off when they see us.


2 posted on 07/24/2024 4:19:02 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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Bear chases skier down Romanian ski slope

https://youtu.be/Ve4pAaGs42E?si=KCoj_Qbyt1IeHNHz


3 posted on 07/24/2024 4:21:59 AM PDT by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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I don’t think bears are aware people are protecting themselves with guns or other such as spray. Grizzlies are grizzlies and will do what they do, which is basically to kill anything that moves.

We are lucky here in the USA as those living in a griz saturated area are allowed to arm themselves with very lethal weapons.


4 posted on 07/24/2024 4:23:30 AM PDT by redfreedom (Joseph Stalin: "It does not matter how anyone votes, how votes are counted is what matters.")
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I don’t think bears are aware people are protecting themselves with guns or other such as spray. Grizzlies are grizzlies and will do what they do, which is basically to kill anything that moves.

When people routinely protect themselves and their property, bears quickly learn to avoid people or they die.

That is what happened in the West. By 1900, grizzly bears ran from humans as fast as they could. Those that did not died.

Once we started overprotecting bears, some started learning humans are good sources of food, and that humans are not dangerous. The sows with this behavior transmit it/teach it to their cubs.

We have started producing generations of problem bears.

Instead of super-protecting sows with cubs who are aggressive toward humans, the sows and cubs should be culled from the population. It is what humans normally did for generations, and it was very successful.

5 posted on 07/24/2024 4:41:08 AM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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[...] were attacked by a European brown bear. The couple was on the emergency phone line with authorities as the woman and man followed directions on how to handle a bear.

That reminds me of that time my mother-in-law was attacked by a bear, and I called 911 for directions on what to do.

The cries and shrieks from my mother-in-law while I was trying to listen to the instructions the authorities were giving me were so annoying!

Regards,

6 posted on 07/24/2024 4:56:59 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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In mountainous regions, the bears tend to be smaller, with average mature boars at about 400-500 lbs.

They also become shape-shifters / gain the ability to change their species.

Regards,

7 posted on 07/24/2024 4:59:09 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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“which is basically to kill anything that moves.”

Except Wolverines. :)


8 posted on 07/24/2024 5:05:02 AM PDT by dljordan (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: silverleaf

A better (longer and good close-ups) YouTube video with a very good skier and an amazingly cute bear - as long as he keeps his distance!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tySWLqrYRo


9 posted on 07/24/2024 5:14:34 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: marktwain

Florida found this out the hard way.

They relocated nuisance bears up to 500 miles away and they still came back.

Now they just euthanize them...................


10 posted on 07/24/2024 5:38:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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Knowing a couple government trappers they joke about moving problem bears. From one location to a location in the other trappers area.

Job security.

Problem bears do not stop their bad behavior just because they are moved.


11 posted on 07/24/2024 5:44:15 AM PDT by riverrunner
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Can a bear be a boar? Maybe not, but a bore can be a bear.


12 posted on 07/24/2024 5:50:48 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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I have spent many nights on the Yukon River in recent years. All nights were by myself and far from any other people or settlements, roads or highways. In 7 trips down most of the Yukon (it’s 2,200 miles long), I have seen 3 bears and they were, I estimate, about 1/4 mile away.

I take great precautions at night including not sleeping where I cook a meal, electronic alarm trip wires, a .500 S & W pistol, a 12 gauge Remington loaded with Triple ought and I camp on islands in the Yukon where there is no brush for at least 300’. At “night”, it doesn’t get dark so you can see them. But, you have to sleep. So, I slept with the 50 Cal S&W in a holster on my chest.


13 posted on 07/24/2024 5:56:12 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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I suspect the underlying motive for reintroducing these animals back into the wild, just as with releasing dangerous criminals back onto street, is to terrify the ordinary decent folks to try to keep them at home, as much as possible, too afraid to venture out.


14 posted on 07/24/2024 6:06:59 AM PDT by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: marktwain

Great article. Thanks.


15 posted on 07/24/2024 6:18:26 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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I go to Glacier every few years. I’ve been 7 or 8 times.

I ALWAYS see griz when hiking. Worst was coming around a short corner on a hiking trail with a buddy, and seeing mama griz and cub at 25 yards. Holy Shiite! Luckily, everybody ran in different directions.


16 posted on 07/24/2024 6:21:16 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Israel, in order: https://freerepublic.com/tag/unclemiltieadventure/index)
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“I suspect the underlying motive for reintroducing these animals back into the wild, just as with releasing dangerous criminals back onto street, is to terrify the ordinary decent folks to try to keep them at home, as much as possible, too afraid to venture out.”

That may be part of it, but I wouldn’t discount the number of indoor dwellers who get their “truth” about nature from old Disney movies. They really think it’s a Bambi world outside their urban apartment buildings.


17 posted on 07/24/2024 6:48:18 AM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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The couple was on the emergency phone line with authorities as the woman and man followed directions on how to handle a bear. The woman was attacked, dragged off, killed, and partially eaten

sounds like something you'd see on the Simpsons
18 posted on 07/24/2024 6:59:22 AM PDT by wafflehouse ("there was a third possibility that we hadn't even counted upon" -Alice's Restaurant Massacree)
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To: marktwain

Arizona Game and Fish Department will try and relocate bears and mountain lions only once, at most. If they return, it is certain AGFD will kill them.

Last year a group of mountain lions roamed a Prescott neighborhood for a couple of weeks and they dispatched all of them. None had been caught before.

A juvenile bear entered our Prescott Valley neighborhood in May, was caught, then escaped. They dispatched the juvenile.


19 posted on 07/24/2024 7:47:49 AM PDT by chrisinoc
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Man created problem. Man will resolve problem after feeding it for a long while, literally.


20 posted on 07/24/2024 8:50:13 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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