Posted on 07/13/2024 5:06:55 AM PDT by Haddit
Do you not think America should have supported Ukraine in?
Mike Benz Umm.It's a good question.Umm.It's it's strange for you know, if, if I'm hesitating, it's because.To answer that question, there are so many layers that come before it that I haven't even really honestly had to think about where I actually fall on the underlying issue because the process is so corrupted, which is to say that anybody who is against it is targeted by the state it's effectively.We something called FISA, which has been joked by one of our senators as being, you know, the.Federal investigators stalking Americans. It's basically a way that we live through Russia. Gate this thing where anybody who supported a day taunt with Russia.Um, was, you know, was effectively deemed to be a Putin puppet. And then you could watch a federal investigation, you could bring in indictments and domestic spy craft on, you know, Trump's whole campaign because of his policy of neutrality with, with Russia effectively and or his in his NATO skepticism. They were.Able to argue, you know, that he was effectively a Russian puppet so they spied on his campaign.
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Supporting Ukraine is to support a non-state machine.
We shouldn’t have pushed against previous agreements up to Russia’s border, we shouldn’t have executed a coup in Ukraine in 2014, we shouldn’t have been all over Ukraine for money laundering and other corrupt purposes throughout, and we shouldn’t have been funding and supporting war in Ukraine, which has hurt Ukrainians more than anyone in response to it all.
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Excellent, so the short answer is NO.
I rarely come into these threads anymore. I find them to be idiotic.
You are either a Putin-Lover or a Globo-Homo lover.
There is no room to be anything else in some people’s minds.
I am occasionally a black and white thinker on certain subjects, but some of the people we see in these things make me feel like a piker on this issue.
America doesn’t have the money for this.
No we should not have supported Ukraine, evry country in Europe is Socialist and very corrupt.
We should have built our wall and protected our own border
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Well and truly said.
Same, but sometimes while scrolling through you see something too ridiculous to let pass without comment. Or in your case, praiseworthy.
Not as long as Vladmir Putin remains the President of Ukraine.
Actually you presented it wrong.
“Putin lovers” on Free Republic are in actual reality terrorism supporters who relish the Houthi daily attacking the U.S. Navy
Putin has become like Hamas, an Iranian surrogate.
You must never ignore that simple but very important fact
Neocons Still Trying to Create WWIII Before the Election
Armstrong Economics ^ | 3 Jun 24 | Martin Armstrong
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/russia/neocons-still-trying-to-creat-wwiii-before-the-election/
Neocons Still Trying to Create WWIII Before the Election
Posted Jul 3, 2024 By Martin Armstrong |
As long as the West continues to allow the Neocons to control this war, then there will be no stopping World War III. These people have spent their entire lives hating Russians for particularly personal reasons. These Neocons have waged endless wars since Vietnam. They had lied to the American public to justify their wars as MacNamara sought to clear his conscience before he died and said, “WE WERE WRONG” about Vietnam, that the Russians were not involved, and it was just a civil war. The cost of this War on Terror Brown University has conducted a study and placed it at $8 trillion, again with no victory. There were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, and nobody was ever held accountable.
It was Victoria Nuland who hand-picked the UNELECTED government in Ukraine and instructed it to begin the civil war, attacking the Donbas to lure in Putin so they could conquer Russia; with their track record, they would lose again. Yet they get the fake news to constantly say Putin invaded unprovoked, lying to the West as they did with Vietnam, where even President Johnson admitted the Vietnamese never attacked the USA. Nuland famously said, “F**K THE EU” show was out to install her government to start this war.
All three Neocons who have found power under Biden were all Jewish with heritage in Ukraine, claiming that their families were persecuted by Russians. That is a CONFLICT OF INTEREST, and nobody in Congress dares to investigate. The vast majority of Jewish friends I have, none of them trace their roots to Ukraine.
To make sure Putin would come to the rescue of the Donbas, they rigged the election to stick in their hand puppet Zelensky, and the day before the invasion, he stood up and declared that Ukraine would rearm with nuclear weapons pointed at Russia.
The Washington Post interviewed Zelensky and asked him why he did not warn his people that Russia would invade when they discovered he had US intelligence. He responded that it would have cost him $7 billion because people would have moved their money out of Ukraine. Ukraine cannot hit Russian ships in the Black Sea or attack installations inside Russia without American intelligence and the use of spy satellites. It was the US that informed Zelensky when Russia would invade, and he admits to having that information.
Russia knows it was Ukraine that attacked the Moscow nightclub, killing civilians with the blessing of the US and UK. Now, they are using cluster bombs to kill Russians sunbathing on the beach. I am sorry, this is outright evil and is desperately trying to get Putin to respond so they can again claim he started World War III. The history books will not buy this BS like the fake news of the West. We MUST purge NATO, the US, and the IK of these Neocons who will destroy the world for their personal hatred.
Once upon a time, world leaders sought peace. The nuclear deterrent was supposed to guarantee peace. Now, the Neocons want war and insist that Putin will never defend Russia. This is a book from my library, In Quest of Peace. I can personally verify that the Neocons protested against Reagan’s meeting with Gorbachev, saying, “You can never trust a Russian.” What was an enemy because of Communism under Kruschev was transformed into personal hatred because of the persecution of the Jews, and these Neocons are poisoning the world for personal vendettas.
This means we are already at war with Russia. If you hire a gunman to kill someone, you point to that person, and he pulls the trigger, in a court of law, you would be charged with conspiracy to murder, and the fact you can claim you did not pull the trigger has no legal basis to escape the charge. This is what is going on in Ukraine. This recent attack, killing even children on a beach, demonstrates that Ukraine cannot be trusted and this war should be shut down. The real numbers so far are 1.1 million Ukrainians ARE ALREADY DEAD. All for Victoria Nuland’s personal hatred of Russians?
There are globalists who are determined to have your great-grandchildren paying for it, even if it means foregoing families and owning anything.
I believe Putin and the Russian leadership give snakepits a bad name.
I believe Ukraine is a sovereign nation was invaded wrongly, and that Russia is the Bad Guy.
Aside from the immorality of the invasion, I don’t have a horse in this race.
Further, notwithstanding Ukraine being the victim, I don’t want one dime going from the Treasury to Ukraine or ANY foreign nation. People can Venmo Zelinsky a few bucks from their checking account if they’re that worked up about it.
Perhaps 20-30 years ago, most conservatives would see the R-UK war, yawn and go back to work. To wit: nobody got worked up over the Soviet-Afghanistan war. Even during the annexation of the Crimea, people were relatively chill.
But Manischewitz, it boggles the mind to see the quantum of bandwidth wasted on the back and forth between “Zeepers” and “Putinistas.”
I mean, I get calling out the hypocrisy of Putin et al and his faux morality. That sombich has the Cross in his hand and the devil in his heart.
But for a conflict and a people thousands of miles away, you’d think the R-UK war is right down the street from the posters.
I think between the pandemic, the 2020 riots and election and OSHA mandate, a lot of people just lost their touch with reality. I also believe they “gave up” on America and have fallen for the Prince of Lies and now hoist Putin or Zelinsky on their shoulders.
Not at all.
He's residing in fantasy land.
I am not saying that I am 100% in on Ukraine. However, to your post, you say that Ukraine did not bargain in good faith? Ukraine siphon Russia’s resources? How about Russia siphoning Ukraine’s wheat, grain, other resources? Russia INVADED Ukraine. What would you want the USA to do if Canada, Mexico, Cuba and the Bahama’s all invaded Florida and the borders of the north and south? Would we want to bargain our resources, our borders with them? Maybe Mexico would want Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California back. Maybe Canada would like to annex WA state, Montana, North and South Dakota, Minnesota, Michigan, NY and Maine. Would we fight them off or “bargain” in good faith. Ukraine was a sovereign nation. This was all about Puke-tin wanting to put his old Soviet Empire back together. What surprises me is he has not renamed Russia the Soviet Union again. I remember 50 years ago, standing on that East-West German border and seeing up close and personal what the Soviet thugs were like. Vietnam taught me what communism was like. Nope, don’t think this Patriot would want to be bargaining with an invader either. Maybe Hitler might have been nicer to France, Holland, Belgium, Norway, if they has just bargained with him better.
The fact that the CIA and FBI censored us sharing Hunter Biden’s laptop on social
Media is enough for me to call Biden’s presidency fraudulent. It was voter fraud.
Some Republicans voted to allow our intelligence community to continue censoring
Social media.
Clapper and Brennan yesterday said Trump was unqualified to be president.
They both signed that 2020 letter falsely dismissing Hunter Biden’s infamous laptop as
Russian disinformation.
This is about who is running our country.
In 2014 as I’ve shown above, it was social media that turned the young Ukrainians
Into rebels and overthrew their country.
That social media was controlled by our government.
From post number 9:
…Democrat stakeholders called the NDI, which Hunter Biden sits on…
Now, Hunter is running our country.
In 2011 social media was used by us to turn the young in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya and
Syria into rebels. Tunisia, Egypt and Libya were overthrown.
600,000 Syrians died in the 7 year Syrian War.
6 million became refugees.
They changed the demographics of Europe.
None of those wars were declared wars.
They were run by the CIA.
Right
America should not have started the damn war by dangling NATO membership in front of the Russians.
Are you this unobservant as to what is going on?
It wasn’t Ukraine wanting Russia’s resources. It was the globalists that wanted Russia’s estimated $400 trillion in mineral wealth. Zelensky purposefully provoked Russia’s wrath by oppressing the Russian ethnics of his country.
Putin had a choice, he could abandon Russian ethnics in Ukraine to being eliminated by Zelensky or go to war to protect them. There was as much choice on Russia’s part as there would be if as America would have had if Mexico decided to kill a million Americans who happened to be visiting Mexico.
It was an engineered war designed to cause Russia to respond and for us to counter respond in order to transfer a trillion dollars for money laundering purposes.
Russia is not the Soviet Union. At best, Putin wanted to extend power over the areas where his people live anyway.
It’s amazing that many Freepers will claim to not believe the media and what they are told, until they do.
It is the wrong question in my opinion to ask. The question I have is what did we do that may have provoked the invasion. Were we a threat to Russia and increasing that threat by publicly stating that we wanted Ukraine in NATO?
That is Mike Benz’s point.
Tanks to Tweets.
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