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Your Religious Values Are Not American Values
The New York Times ^ | July 4, 2024 | Pamela Paul

Posted on 07/04/2024 5:19:06 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

Christian nationalists aim to impose their beliefs on others.

Whenever a politician cites “Judeo-Christian values,” I find it’s generally followed by something unsettling.

Last month brought two flagrant instances. In both cases, Republican officials introduced state laws that formalize precepts of the Christian nationalist movement — in the words of the National Association of Christian Lawmakers (A.D. 2019), “doing everything we can to restore the Judeo-Christian foundation of our nation.”

On June 19, Gov. Jeff Landry of Louisiana signed legislation requiring public classrooms to display the Ten Commandments, a practice struck down as unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in 1980. A rich endorsement came via Donald Trump, who crowed, “I LOVE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS, PRIVATE SCHOOLS, AND MANY OTHER PLACES, FOR THAT MATTER. READ IT — HOW CAN WE, AS A NATION, GO WRONG???”

One week later, Landry’s fellow Christian soldier Ryan Walters, Oklahoma’s superintendent of public instruction, announced plans to mandate teaching the Bible in public schools. Walters said learning the Bible is necessary to having “an understanding of the basis of our legal system.”

Forgive me for wondering: Is he referring to “an eye for an eye” or the stoning of disobedient children?

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Either way, for both Trump and true believers, it hardly matters that the First Amendment was intended to protect religion from the state, not to have the state impose a religion. (So much for originalism.) Their goal is to impose one form of religion, Christianity,...


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To: EinNYC

I don’t think Christianity is moronic nor do I think it makes one a bigot.


41 posted on 07/04/2024 7:17:00 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It is not an imposition - on anyone - to proclaim the truth.

To impose a religious test on public service is forbidden by the Constitution. To proudly proclaim the truth, even with a loud voice, harms no one and may save someone while you’re at it.


42 posted on 07/04/2024 7:19:33 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: Vision

bears repeating to all the anti-religious socialists who are imposing their filthy immorality on the nation!

“Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” John Adams


43 posted on 07/04/2024 7:42:28 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m waiting for her and the NYT to send a similar message to Muslims.


44 posted on 07/04/2024 7:44:40 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Which is why the system is now rigged.
The most legal immigrant come from Mexico (425k), China(115k), and India (202k). 74% of legal immigration comes from asia, mexico, and central america. 12% come from europe.
Thanks Ted Kennedy
In 1960, Pew notes, 84 percent of U.S. immigrants were born in Europe or Canada; 6 percent were from Mexico, 3.8 percent were from South and East Asia, 3.5 percent were from Latin America and 2.7 percent were from other parts of the world. In 2017, European and Canadian immigrants totaled 13.2 percent, while Mexicans totaled 25.3 percent, other Latin Americans totaled 25.1 percent, Asians totaled 27.4 percent and other populations totaled 9 percent.


45 posted on 07/04/2024 7:44:58 PM PDT by Waverunner
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

2 wrongs make a right?


46 posted on 07/04/2024 7:52:00 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Is “Pamela Paul” a dyke or an abortionist?


47 posted on 07/04/2024 7:54:43 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: joesbucks

As usual, I have no idea what you are babbling about, but as long as you get to mindlessly virtue signal, it’s all good.


48 posted on 07/04/2024 9:01:11 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
The NYT is basically saying that Christians are un-American.

Also note that the eye for an eye and the stoning of disobedient children are part of the Old Testament. She rejects that as hateful, so I guess she should add that Jews are also un-American.

49 posted on 07/04/2024 9:07:36 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt ( )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Western Culture is a synthesis of Roman Culture and Christianity.

You can’t have Western Culture without Christianity.


50 posted on 07/04/2024 9:11:27 PM PDT by Brookhaven (Ted Cruz said Jan. 6 was terrorism; don't forget that the next time you vote.)
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To: Brookhaven

“Thou shalt not lie, steal, covet, commit adultery, murder, etc.” made Western civilization possible.

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” —John Adams


51 posted on 07/04/2024 9:17:13 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What a pant-load.
God.
Family.
Country.
In that order.
This vile woman will reap her reward. She’s already got it, and it goes down from here.


52 posted on 07/04/2024 9:17:16 PM PDT by vpintheak (Sometimes you’re the windshield, sometimes you’re the bug. )
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To: Brookhaven
We're living in the post Western Era.

USA will eventually become Estados Unidos. Canada will become Islamic. Most likely around 2050 or so.

53 posted on 07/04/2024 9:17:32 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: escapefromboston

Insisting that it’s the only way to go is offensive. It’s far from the only religion and it’s not mine. You are moronic and a bigot, not Christianity.


54 posted on 07/04/2024 9:25:58 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You know exactly. But yes, all good.


55 posted on 07/05/2024 12:35:35 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Which Christians? Catholics were once believed to be emissaries of the Pope. Puritans for a time hung Quakers. Catholics and Lutherans used to go at it in Europe. Crusaders for a while attacked Byzantine Christians. Suddenly there are “Christian Nationalists.” Monolithic. Menacing. Woooooooo!

Leftards are always after fake threats and have fake solutions to fake problems, all designed to empower them.


56 posted on 07/05/2024 12:40:39 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: DoodleBob

or?


57 posted on 07/05/2024 4:41:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Well NYT I see it like this, it’s either your religion or my religion and your religion had slaughtered around a hundred million and forced even more into hopeless hunger and poverty for the whole of their lives so…well…go to hell…


58 posted on 07/05/2024 5:06:40 AM PDT by TalBlack (I We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: fuzzylogic

Which of the commandments do they oppose?


59 posted on 07/05/2024 5:31:25 AM PDT by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: escapefromboston

“Jews are free to worship Jesus Christ just like everyone else should.“

God Himself pointed to the Jews and called them His People. He warns those who would curse them that they would be cursed.

He gave them an important job: Conduct the Torah, the primary link between Heaven and earth, through time. They have done this literally perfectly for five thousand years.

The Torah which foretells the coming of Jesus some hundreds of times, exists in its original pristine state to this day, without any change of any kind whatsoever. (A seeming impossibility when you consider the human tendency to get in control of the law and make it do their bidding) Without the Torah there is no Jesus and there is no God. Which is why evil always, infallibly, hates the Jews.

Time began when the Torah was in Man’s hands and mind.

The Jews are along for the ride and their existence has massively assisted Christianity’s advance and cultural triumph.


60 posted on 07/05/2024 5:34:56 AM PDT by TalBlack (I We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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