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This may end up the most damaging SCOTUS decision of the term. And it wasn't immunity.
MSNBC ^ | July 3, 2024 | Steve Vladeck

Posted on 07/03/2024 9:23:38 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

Imagine that Congress passes a statute authorizing the Environmental Protection Agency to require permits whenever material alterations are made to a “major stationary source” of air pollution (or new ones are created). So far, so good. Now imagine that a power plant near your home has three smokestacks. Does that count as one “major stationary source” or three? And what makes a stationary source “major”? Beyond these substantive questions is a procedural one: Who should resolve these matters? Unelected federal judges, who may have no particular expertise in environmental law, or the federal agency staffed with scientific and policy experts who do?.....

At its core, the Loper Bright decision is a transfer of power. The Supreme Court insists that it’s a transfer of power from unelected bureaucrats in unaccountable federal agencies to the people’s elected representatives. But that argument is based on two different fictions. Understanding those fictions also helps to understand the central complaint in Justice Elena Kagan’s dissent: that the majority opinion is nothing more than a massive, and potentially government-altering “grasp[] for power.”......

Agencies aren’t perfect. But neither are judges. And if the question is whether technical questions should be resolved by those with the relevant expertise who work for presidents for whom we have voted, or by generalist judges selected (and sometimes hand-picked) by plaintiffs with an ideological axe to grind, the answer shouldn’t have been this hard. Deference to executive branch agencies is something we’ll miss when (as of last Friday) it’s gone.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chevron; deepstate; federalpower; hysterics; msm; regulations; scotus
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"Agencies aren’t perfect."

Agencies have been and are being politized to force agendas such as man-made climate change. This decision allows citizens to have a say in the fairness and science of agency regulations, which leftists don't want to allow as it slows the advance to communism.

The way PMSNBC is reacting basically proves SCOTUS get it right.

1 posted on 07/03/2024 9:23:38 PM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The author is an idiot. Congress needs to clarify each occasion.

Judges only intervene, until then.

It was never supposed to be the Deep State always deciding, then enforcing their new edicts, never to be stopped.

What an idiot.


2 posted on 07/03/2024 9:30:26 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Ultimately Congress will need to get off it’s ass and write and pass granular (in detail) enabling legislation individually for all Executive branch agencies.


3 posted on 07/03/2024 9:30:27 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Well Steve the problem is that you just suck. Libs are wrong with everything, If you had an honest, pure or right thought in your soul, then the courts wouldn’t have to do this.If congress did their job the courts wouldn’t have to take power away from unelected bureaucrats like yourself.


4 posted on 07/03/2024 9:31:02 PM PDT by pghbjugop
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

“experts”

There’s that word again.

One of the management team decided to change my title to “science expert”.

I told him experts are always wrong and change it back to “research scientist”.

A scientist/engineer is wrong many times, especially when what you are doing has never been tried.


5 posted on 07/03/2024 9:33:36 PM PDT by packagingguy
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Their expert class is often intellectually destitute, morally bankrupt, incredibly inept at being right and live thousands of miles away from the issues.


6 posted on 07/03/2024 9:36:28 PM PDT by Freest Republican (There is no tyranny that cannot be justified by imbeciles)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

I pulled a building permit to replace some wallboard.

As for the power plant, if the EPA could see a difference or if a contract would be bid for, apply for the permit.

Congress should not pass vague laws.

Administrative law should only involve clerical work.


7 posted on 07/03/2024 9:44:43 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: packagingguy

If your company deems you an “expert”, you might see more time in courtrooms and deposition rooms than in labs.


8 posted on 07/03/2024 9:47:25 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Liberals have developed an unhealthy fetish of complete subservience to federal agencies.


9 posted on 07/03/2024 9:58:08 PM PDT by nwrep
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1 or 3

You would submit the drawings.

The EPA only wants to have a say.

I’m more capable of surviving in the second Stone Age than any spouse of any senator.


10 posted on 07/03/2024 9:59:55 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

If MSNBC is whining about how bad it is - then you know it was the right thing to do.


11 posted on 07/03/2024 10:17:27 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: ConservativeMind

The country was set up to make all governance subject to the people’s who vote for the governmental officers.
It doesn’t matter who knows more...the ngos and gos used a power grab to force their will, and yes, their incomplete knowledge base rationalizations on the public without constitutional authority. Their influence needs to be destroyed. These are the snot noses who oppose any type of oversight on their activities. Fire them.


12 posted on 07/03/2024 10:22:17 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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“Deference to executive branch agencies is something we’ll miss when (as of last Friday) it’s gone”

Uh, a YUGE NO!


13 posted on 07/03/2024 10:23:18 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
federal agency staffed with scientific and policy experts

stopped reading right there.

14 posted on 07/03/2024 10:24:03 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Pray for Biden: Psalms 109: 8)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

YAY!

While in France this week, I saw graffiti that said,

“MORTES AUX BUREAUCRATES!”

“DEATH TO THE BUREAUCRATS!”


15 posted on 07/03/2024 10:25:09 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Israel, in order: https://freerepublic.com/tag/unclemiltieadventure/index)
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Unelected means unaccountable, the definition of who they are trying to protect.


16 posted on 07/03/2024 10:25:45 PM PDT by dadgum (“”)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

The only existential threat to humanity is climate change - Joe Biden


17 posted on 07/03/2024 10:26:46 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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Half the time, (most the time?), government is the problem. Too many laws, rules, and regulations. Too much power in the hands of un-elected bureaucrats. They abused that power and now have to answer for it.


18 posted on 07/03/2024 10:30:33 PM PDT by Boomer (The dems and rinos have pegged the evil needle so hard, Satan now answers to them.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Imagine that Congress passes a statute authorizing the Environmental Protection Agency to require permits whenever material alterations are made to a “major stationary source” of air pollution (or new ones are created). So far, so good. Now imagine that a power plant near your home has three smokestacks. Does that count as one “major stationary source” or three?

It's one plant...so obviously one source. What a moron.

19 posted on 07/03/2024 10:35:22 PM PDT by montag813
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Congress gets to make substantive law. That’s what they get elected for.

Neither Joe’s agency people nor judges should get to make substantive law.

If in doubt, the person or entity facing the government should get the benefit of the doubt. Legal provisions are normally construed against the party that wrote them.

Tomorrow is another day. Congress can work too.


20 posted on 07/03/2024 10:36:57 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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