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Why The Left Hates It When You Point Out We’re ‘A Republic, Not A Democracy’
The Federalist ^ | 06/17/24 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 06/17/2024 8:46:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

For as long as I can remember, the left has been sneering at anyone who points out that the United States is a republic, not a democracy. They find the notion almost as unsophisticated and fascistic as flying a revolutionary-era flag.

Even some people I admire dismiss the democracy/republic debate as a semantic distraction. They shouldn’t.

The other day, CNN’s Donie O’Sullivan tried to make Trump fans who repeat this factual contention look like a bunch of dumb, lockstepping authoritarians. To explain the problem, CNN even recruited “democracy” expert Anne Applebaum, who noted that, “America is a democracy. It was founded as a democracy … the word ‘democracy’ and the word ‘republic’ have often been used interchangeably. There isn’t a meaningful difference between them …”

Sure there is.

Ask the contemporary leftists who target virtually every protection we have against mob rule in the name of “democracy” — attacking the Supreme Court, the Electoral College, federalism, the filibuster, the Senate, and even the existence of states. They understand the difference, even if just intuitively.

Ask leftists who treat the “popular vote,” not as a wishcasting cope, but as means of legitimizing presidential elections. Those who want a few big states ruling the nation via a direct federal democracy are not interested in an American “republic.”

Blunting the federal government’s power over states and the state’s power over individuals is an indispensable way to ensure a diverse people in a huge nation can govern themselves and live freely. The “save democracy” types who refer to these long-standing federalist institutions as “minority rule” do not view “democracy” and a constitutional republic as interchangeable concepts.

Neither do smaller blue-state governors who sign a national vote compact that not only dilutes their state’s power but circumvents the Constitution. They love a direct democracy. A constitutional republic? Not so much.

When writers at The Atlantic, where Applebaum is a contributor, talk about “The Democrats’ Last Chance to Save Democracy,” they aren’t lamenting Biden’s unprecedented executive abuse, but the “democratic deficits in the Senate and the Electoral College” — as if these institutions weren’t specifically instituted to diffuse centralized control. They know the difference.

Democrats who want to “expand” the Supreme Court for failing to follow democratic trends, don’t care about the “republic.” After all, many of the high court’s most historic decisions, including Dred Scott and Plessy, cut the legs out from under “democracy.”

Or take the so-called moderate Democrats who want to get rid of the filibuster or use the slimmest of fleeting majorities to shove through massive, generational federal “reforms” without any national consensus — Obamacare or The Deficit Reduction Act [sic]. They’re aware that “reforms” will overturn hundreds of state and local laws. They want local minorities subordinate to the whims and vagaries of national majorities.

Then again, the more “democracy” we have, the more demagoguery thrives. Of course they’re fans.

As it turns out, according to CNN a number of Trump supporters also understand the distinction even if they are unable to articulate it in poli-scientific terms. 

Then again, if O’Sullivan wants to dunk on them, maybe he should take a civics refresher himself.  “There is, of course, a legitimate debate to be had on what form of democracy we have here in the United States — direct democracy, representative democracy, in fact, constitutional republic, which you heard people mentioned in that piece, that is a form of democracy,” the CNN host explained.

There is, “of course,” zero “legitimate debate discussion” to be had over whether we are a “direct democracy.” Not today, nor ever. “Democracy” isn’t even mentioned anywhere in any founding document, much less a direct one. None of the framers entertained any notions about majoritarianism or federal power that would even loosely comport the ones now embraced by the left.

People will often tell me that, sure, we might be a republic, but we also have “democratic institutions.” Of course we do. We also have numerous nondemocratic institutions. The Bill of Rights, for instance, is largely concerned with protecting individuals from state and the mob. The insistence that we only use “democracy” is meant to corrode the importance and acceptance of those countermajoritarian rules and traditions.

“[F]or centuries,” insists O’Sullivan (italics mine), “America has celebrated its democracy,” before playing clips of Ronald Reagan and others praising the notion of “democracy.”

Indeed, the word “democracy” — from “demos,” the people — has been used as a shorthand for self-rule since before Pericles. In the past, we’ve used it to convey respect for a set of liberal ideas about liberties and rights, as well as self-determination. I’m sure I’ve used it in that way, too. Most Americans probably comprehend the notion of “democracy” in the same, vague context.

These days, though, a bunch of illiberal progressives (and others) have taken universal notions that once fell under the umbrella of “democracy” and cynically distorted them to champion a hypermajoritarian outlook.  It’s no accident the people who demand you call us a “democracy” also champion the idea that 50.1 percent of the country should be empowered to lord over the economic, religious, cultural, and political decisions of 49.9 percent.

It’s the point. 


David Harsanyi is a senior editor at The Federalist, a nationally syndicated columnist, a Happy Warrior columnist at National Review, and author of five books—the most recent, Eurotrash: Why America Must Reject the Failed Ideas of a Dying Continent.


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To: All

What they are really furious about is that it is not a DEMOCRATcy.


41 posted on 06/17/2024 10:13:49 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: cpdiii

I forgot to add the Democrat Party. There is little difference between them and socialistic Marxism.

Long past the Democrat Party was an honorable opposition that loved our nation but with differences with the Republican Party on policy. Both had total loyalty to our nation as it was founded. This is no more. Today the Democrat Party is a quasi socialist Marxist entity. As they use the power of politics and federal control they are very close to Fascist. If they get control it will quickly devolve into first total socialism and then Marxism.

Odd is it not that our great nation could eventually devolve into a power that is great but at the same time evil. Marxism does this


42 posted on 06/17/2024 10:16:20 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, oilfield roughneck, drilling fluid tech, geologist, pilot, pharmacist ,MAGA)
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To: Olog-hai

Well then you’re doing proof by assertion as well. You just make up the meanings of words. What is your native language?


43 posted on 06/17/2024 10:24:11 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: DLfromthedesert

“Democracy: Two wolves and a sheep deciding what’s for dinner.”

Liberty = A well-armed sheep contesting the vote.


44 posted on 06/17/2024 10:37:29 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Disband and Defund the putrid FBI. America does not need an out of control Gestapo)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Not even The Stupid Party recognizes America as a Republic. It would be interesting if anyone (including Republicans) bothered to recite the Pledge and pay attention to the words.


45 posted on 06/17/2024 10:47:01 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore)
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To: SeekAndFind

The US is a representative democracy with a Republican form of government.

Res publica, a public thing. Not a monarchy thing.

Demos kratos, people rule.

They’re not synonyms, not antonyms.

The Republican form of government is how we structure and implement our representative democracy.

The leftists experts are idiots to deny we are a republic.

Further they clearly don’t believe in democracy and are crypto monarchists that believe an aristocratic elite should rule by fiat.


46 posted on 06/17/2024 11:17:21 PM PDT by ifinnegan (MDemocrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: SeekAndFind

bttt


47 posted on 06/17/2024 11:24:34 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Pray for President Trump. Never be a slave in a new Socialist America.)
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To: nickcarraway
Don't people learn anything on school anymore?

No and they don't even teach it in whatever they call History class these days. The same with Math, English/Grammar would be the same or they just don't teach it at all.

It's a Democratic Republic.

48 posted on 06/18/2024 1:00:36 AM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress!!!)
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To: nickcarraway
A square is not a type of rectangle. Especially when the definition of a rectangle specifically states a square isn't a rectangle?

"a plane figure with four straight sides and four right angles, especially one with unequal adjacent sides, in contrast to a square."

49 posted on 06/18/2024 1:01:04 AM PDT by Trinity5
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To: Olog-hai

A republic is a country without royalty. Leftist elites *think* they’re royalty. That’s why they (and their “mainstream” media mouthpieces) snarl like rabid dogs at the word “republic.”


50 posted on 06/18/2024 2:19:43 AM PDT by Big Brother Go to Hell
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To: SeekAndFind

Democracy is mob rule. In fact, Democracy is Communism.


51 posted on 06/18/2024 2:28:54 AM PDT by KobraKai
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To: MileHi

We have democratic elections ( with fraud )to vote in our Representative Republican government.


52 posted on 06/18/2024 2:49:28 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Note to self: must read!


53 posted on 06/18/2024 3:19:50 AM PDT by NetAddicted (MAGA2024)
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To: Drew68

“We haven’t been a republic since Lincoln”.. SOMEONE GETS IT!. 👍


54 posted on 06/18/2024 3:23:32 AM PDT by Ikeon
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To: SeekAndFind

I suggest we start referring to what the left wants as imperialism.

They certainly want their influence to dominate economically, socially, and politically over smaller states.

If those actions were taken by a large nation over a small nation, the tradional left would denounce it as a foreign dominating system intending to wipe out another nation’s sovereignty and culture.

Just because that happens inside US borders shouldn’t change their belief.

Our “republic not a democracy” argument goes nowhere even with reachable leftists... but if we frame it as imperialism we may reach some voters.

Afterall, removing safeguards protecting minority states IS imperialism.


55 posted on 06/18/2024 3:26:27 AM PDT by VetoBill
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To: KobraKai

Democracy is communism? China and Cuba are therfore democracies? Who knew?


56 posted on 06/18/2024 3:34:11 AM PDT by Sir_Humphrey (The “only Trumpers” are just as damaging to the conservative cause as are the “never Trumpers”)
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To: Olog-hai

If we were truly a democracy, every law and every regulation would need to be approved by popular vote. How would the liberals like THAT?


57 posted on 06/18/2024 3:38:40 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: SeekAndFind

Gang/mob/collective rule v individual rights. BIG GOV v small citizen.


58 posted on 06/18/2024 3:44:47 AM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: Olog-hai

We have been woefully lax in teaching our progeny this basic distinction, thinking the Pledge of Allegiance once a day is all we need to preserve all that is embodied in our founding.


59 posted on 06/18/2024 3:59:18 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (In a world of parrots and lemmings, be a watchdog.)
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To: Reverend Wright

You are talking about things as they are, right now, which is indeed an oligarchy disguised as a Republic.

But that is not what we were given.

We were given a Republic, and a damn well thought out one, too.

But our Republic was made for a moral and religious people, especially those leading it, and we are not that.

When it became clear that there were no penalties for violating the Constitution, it became open season on our liberty, and here we are.


60 posted on 06/18/2024 4:02:06 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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