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Trump’s VP and the Twelfth Amendment of the Constitution
American Thinker ^ | 06/16/2024 | Mark C. Ross

Posted on 06/16/2024 9:36:37 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

There’s a fair amount of speculation these days about whom Trump will choose as a running mate. Guessing games can often attract a crowd. The names of Ron DeSantis and Marco Rubio, along with even Donald Trump, Jr., are being bandied about.

There is a catch. It’s called the Twelfth Amendment: “The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves.”

This particular clause did not change the Constitution. It was carried forward from Article II, Section 1 so as to maintain the same rule, in spite of the amendment, which changed the way in which the vice president was chosen. Originally, the veep was the second-place finisher in the Electoral College.

In the election of 1800, there was an electoral tie between Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr, so the House of Representatives chose Jefferson to be president and Burr to be vice president. Needless to say, they didn’t get along very well, so the Twelfth Amendment was ratified and took effect for the next election in 1804. On July 11 of that same year, Burr killed Alexander Hamilton in a duel.

Just to be clear, it is still possible for both the president and vice president to live in the same state, but the electors of that state cannot vote for both of them. For states such as Wyoming and Alaska, this doesn’t matter all that much. Florida, however, has thirty electoral votes, and that ain’t chopped liver. Texas has thirty-eight electoral votes. When Texas governor George W. Bush chose him to be his running-mate, Dick Cheney promptly quit his job at Haliburton in Houston and scooted back up to Wyoming to register to vote.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 12thamendment; constitution; desantis; flflfl; florida; rubio; trump; twelfthamendment; vp
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1 posted on 06/16/2024 9:36:37 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump simply can’t pick any of the Florida guys. It’d simply make no sense for him to declare himself a New Yorker again, considering everything that went down between himself and the NY courts. And it’s very strong possibility of another close election in which a GOP electoral college majority can’t be obtained without Florida. We can’t risk a majority-Dem senate instilling one of their own as Trump’s VP


2 posted on 06/16/2024 9:45:38 PM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: SeekAndFind

Well the Constitution never stopped the Libs, look at the Second Admendment


3 posted on 06/16/2024 9:47:48 PM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: SeekAndFind

RFK Jr.’s father moved and so did Hillary Clinton. Both were to get political advantage for other offices.

The father RFK:
“After his brother’s assassination, he remained in office during the presidency of Lyndon B. Johnson for several months. He left to run for the U.S. Senate from New York in 1964 and defeated Republican incumbent Kenneth Keating, overcoming criticism that he was a “carpetbagger” from Massachusetts.”

Hillary Clinton:
“Clinton and her husband, President Bill Clinton, purchased a house in Chappaqua, New York, in September 1999; she thereby became eligible for the election, although she faced accusations of carpetbagging since she had never resided in the state before.”

Stories of DeSantis or Rubio moving out of Florida (maybe like Jed Clampett with the truck holding everything, setting up a trailer with a mailbox and maybe a hound dog in another state far from Florida), have been around for a while.
Dems would like Trump to be living in a “big house” by then.


4 posted on 06/16/2024 9:49:20 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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To: irishjuggler

Donald is living here in NJ for the summer (in Bedminster.) Would love it if he registered here!


5 posted on 06/16/2024 9:49:20 PM PDT by TheChief2005
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To: irishjuggler

Trump can relocate to Nevada for the rest of the year and stay in his suite at the Trump hotel. He needs Nevada and being a resident would help.


6 posted on 06/16/2024 9:56:18 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: irishjuggler

“We can’t risk a majority-Dem senate instilling one of their own as Trump’s VP”

Yep. there’s a fairly good chance the Senate might be a 50-50 split.


7 posted on 06/16/2024 9:56:33 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: SeekAndFind

Guys, do we really WANT Rubio? I seem to recall him being a snake in the grass.

So, if that’s true, and we see the dems willing to allow him to run, or make some concession to allow it, we’ll know the fix is in.


8 posted on 06/16/2024 10:00:07 PM PDT by FrankRizzo890
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To: frank ballenger

Stories of DeSantis or Rubio moving out of Florida (maybe like Jed Clampett with the truck holding everything, setting up a trailer with a mailbox and maybe a hound dog in another state far from Florida), have been around for a while.

Neither one of them is going to move as they would have to give up their day job to do so.


9 posted on 06/16/2024 10:26:04 PM PDT by Steven Scharf
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To: rxh4n1

The GOP is currently a bet $3 to win $1 favorite to take the Senate leaving the chances of it landing 50/50 fairly low.

The Dems have over twice as many seats to defend.

Plenty of them are vulnerable.


10 posted on 06/16/2024 10:30:13 PM PDT by Freest Republican (There is no tyranny that cannot be justified by imbeciles)
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11 posted on 06/16/2024 10:32:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Steven Scharf

Trump needs to be looking for someone from a blue state. You will not like the options there.

Chris Sununu of NH who is not running for re-election.
Paul LePage of Maine, whoops he is now a Florida resident
Charlie Baker of Massachusetts

There really are no good options.


12 posted on 06/16/2024 10:39:35 PM PDT by Steven Scharf
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To: TheChief2005

What is this obsession with two people living in the same state. I’ve moved six times in my career. BFD. Trump can move to any of his properties outside FL.


13 posted on 06/16/2024 10:56:22 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore)
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To: irishjuggler

Everything went down in New York precisely because he is a New Yorker.


14 posted on 06/16/2024 11:01:15 PM PDT by dangus
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To: irishjuggler

Everything went down in New York precisely because he is a New Yorker.


15 posted on 06/16/2024 11:01:15 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Steven Scharf

NYP: One top surrogate already said a plan is in place for Rubio to resign his seat and relocate to Maryland if Trump picks him — but the situation is viewed as less than ideal.


16 posted on 06/17/2024 12:43:03 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98

And NJ is the state that is looking to cancel Trump’s liquor licenses and all the rest. Donald Trump is not going to move his legal residence to NJ where he would no doubt be subject to yet another phony prosecution. If anyone is going to move right now it’s not going to be Trump.


17 posted on 06/17/2024 12:59:48 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: SeekAndFind

How about Mike Pence? No, I’m joking folks. 😆 Lighten up. I wouldn’t trust Prnce to clean toilets. 🤮


18 posted on 06/17/2024 1:03:10 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of Air Force pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: SeekAndFind

This could all be solved fairly quickly. Do any political parties care about voting for the VP separately? I doubt it. It just takes an amendment to get rid of this outdated practice that should’ve be done long ago. Which state wouldn’t be fine with having both president and VP as residents?


19 posted on 06/17/2024 1:22:27 AM PDT by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: irishjuggler

Didn’t Trump recently say something about seeing himself living in Texas?

But I don’t see that happening. Don’t think he’ll pick someone from FL anyway.

I still think Marco is on his list as the token Hispanic, just as Elise is the token woman.


20 posted on 06/17/2024 1:27:10 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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