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This Restaurant Banned People Under 30, and the Internet’s Got Intense Opinions
Food & Wine ^ | June 11, 2024 | Guy Martin

Posted on 06/13/2024 1:10:21 PM PDT by nickcarraway

The owner wants a 'grown and sexy atmosphere.'

Florissant, Missouri, population 51, 506, is a mid-American idyll, founded in the 18th century by French traders, who originally named it Fleurissant (loosely translated as “blooming”), for the amazing fecundity of the alluvial soil in the Mississippi River valley. Over the last 280 years it has slowly been transformed into an internal suburb of that other, larger French frontier trading post, St. Louis. But the old town of Florissant has retained much of its character and today enjoys a tidy, settled affluence.

Hoping to tap into that market, in May 2024 enterprising restaurateur Marvin Pate opened Bliss, whose menu is centered around upmarket Caribbean cuisine, where all the chefs are Jamaican. Reportedly, Bliss does a splendid jerked lamb chop. It’s a generous room, with a mezzanine and a long, welcoming bar. In a word, kudos, nice watering hole. Stuck in St. Louis, we’re definitely dropping by for whatever beast of the field or the sea you have jerked for us when we get there.

But Pate’s notion of social engineering his customer base toward a more affluent demographic was, at the same time, surprisingly stark: no men under 35 years of age, and no women under 30. Quaint, no? In practice, night-to-night, it’s not just an obscure rule that you can, in a crowd, hope to shimmy around. The policy is enforced. Bliss’s staff “cards” the customers in the classic 1950s sense, and they will ask you to leave if you’re not up and over the age hurdle.

We Talk a Lot About Kids in Restaurants but What About How Older Diners Are Treated? “It’s just something for the older people to come do and have a happy hour, come get some good food and not have to worry about some of the young folks who bring some of that drama,” Bliss' assistant manager Erica Rhodes told KSDK, a local news outlet.

Quite soon after opening, Pate’s admittedly unusual door policy gained a soupçon of attention from a local television station, in friendly-enough, Better-Business-Bureau tones, along the lines of: “Well, here’s something kind of quirky right here at home!”

In other words, it was coverage that Pate could live with. He was robustly quoted on camera, and he doubled down. “I think Bliss is a home away from home,” the owner said. “You can come here and actually feel like you’re at a resort. People will feel like they’re on a vacation.” He added, "Of course, we have been getting a little backlash because of our policy, but that’s okay, we’re sticking to our code.”

Close Out Your Bar Tab Before You Go to Your Table — Here's Why On May 26, Bliss posted on its Facebook account a statement of what we might call the restaurant’s cosmology, which read, in part: “To ensure a grown and sexy atmosphere, we require all guests to be 30 or older for women and 35 or older for men. This policy helps us maintain a sophisticated environment, uphold our standards, and support the sustainability of our unique ambiance.”

Predictably, this post and its massive reverb blew up nationally within days. As predictably, the Today show quoted the unfortunate “grown and sexy” turn of phrase.

In fairness, all restaurants, every single one on earth, from the bastion of haute cuisine such as Paris’ Le Taillevent to the simplest hawker of roast chicken in Singapore, broadcast some sort of demographic appeal, even if only with their cuisine. There are plenty of restaurants in which children are not welcome, and in London, there are clubs such as The Garrick that have only just, fitfully, kicking, and screaming, with the first quarter of the 21st century almost behind us, begun to admit women.

Want to Know What the Server Really Thinks of You? They're Talking About It on TikTok All that noted, basing customer selection on calendar age and setting the bar far toward the high end of the 25-to-44 disposable-income demographic is more than just plain old garden-variety ageist, though it is also that. In today’s Silicon-Valley-inflected age of billionaires by 23, in drinks sales alone, it’s a restaurateur’s marketing equivalent of a logger cranking up a chainsaw and running it through one of his legs.

One way to grasp this is to imagine who Bliss might let in, but a more direct way is to compose a shortlist of customers whom, mistakenly seated and then carded, the Bliss hosts would ask to leave.

To the rogues’ gallery, then:

With nine Grammys to her credit, Billie Eilish, now 22, and her brother Finneas O’Connell, for the moment 26, with seven Grammys and a couple of Oscars to boot, are currently suffering through an eight- and a nine-year-wait, respectively, for a table in Bliss.

Should they ever have their private jet forced to divert to Florissant, Missouri, at dinnertime, couple-of-the-moment Timothée Chalamet, 28, and Kylie Jenner, 26, face a seven- and a four-year wait, respectively, for their jerked lamb chops, which is completely fine, since it will take at least that long for them to mature into Bliss’ definition of “grown and sexy” restaurant customers.

Lil Nax X, let’s see, born in April 1999, sorry man, no table tonight, but you are welcome back to Bliss in ten years, okay? Patrick Mahomes! That last Super Bowl win with Kelce was really something! Dude, on the down low, sorry about the table, but the seven years before we can book you into Bliss is gonna go by in a flash.

You Are Not Too Good to Eat at a Chain Restaurant Notable for the combined $3.6 billion in funding they have raised in medicine, finance, the arts, and business, the entire Forbes Magazine 2024 “30 under 30” list of entrepreneurs, whose average age is 27 but whose youngest is 15, remain unwelcome.

By all means, stop these people at the door. Nobody wants to have drinks or dinner with them.

Perhaps the final irony to emerge from the dust-up is that Bliss’ owner, Marvin Pate, is 36. A year and a bit back, even he would not have been able to get a table at his restaurant.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: ageism; mississippi; restaurants
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1 posted on 06/13/2024 1:10:21 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I’m against this.


2 posted on 06/13/2024 1:11:42 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Trump's experience? We're next.)
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To: nickcarraway

I like options. I wish more resorts had pools with the same age restrictions.


3 posted on 06/13/2024 1:14:53 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: nickcarraway

Heck, Mahomes and that “Little Network Attached Storage the Tenth” have enough dough to buy their own Jamaican Chefs and keep them on call.

It is a big world, and one place with such a rule is not an issue. Now, how about one with no men under 35 and no women over 35? (Ducking object thrown by wife)


4 posted on 06/13/2024 1:20:28 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (Stormy Daniels is a McGuffin)
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Heck, Mahomes and that “Little Network Attached Storage the Tenth” have enough dough to buy their own Jamaican Chefs and keep them on call. ????
5 posted on 06/13/2024 1:25:53 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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I find this funny, but I’m way way over 35. Fancy way of saying “we have the right to refuse service”, but this is age discrimination, only in reverse.


6 posted on 06/13/2024 1:26:17 PM PDT by BigFreakinToad (Remember the Biden Kitchen Fire of 2004)
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To: nickcarraway

It’s safer, that’s for sure.


7 posted on 06/13/2024 1:37:23 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: nickcarraway

The same people that said social media platforms are private businesses and can ban anyone they want now take offense at a private business banning anyone they want.


8 posted on 06/13/2024 1:37:30 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: nickcarraway

Nice unwritten way to exclude young black gun wielding patrons with low impulse control, who just can’t help but shoot up the place when they feel dissed. Such a rule has the effect of keeping out some otherwise desirable patrons, but it’s one way of avoiding trouble makers.


9 posted on 06/13/2024 1:43:00 PM PDT by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Poor 'lil Travon bees slamming dat white cracka'a head into dat sidewalk causin he be scared)
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To: nickcarraway

I do believe that people should be able to socialize with those they prefer.

That said It was interesting to walk through a Florida country club 30 years ago with 2 of my adopted biracial black children on our way to a wedding.

In retrospect I guess I would not want to be anywhere I am not wanted.


10 posted on 06/13/2024 1:50:07 PM PDT by Chickensoup
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I suspect they aim these rules to a certain racial group...eliminating below 35 for males takes out a lot of trouble....

I don't believe in discriminating on age issues because mostly its aimed only at children, our future....but people seem to be okay with keeping children out while letting the old farting grandmas and dribbling grandpas anywhere they want to go like on planes...

so the restaurant can do whatever they want but I would never give them my business...

11 posted on 06/13/2024 1:54:02 PM PDT by cherry
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To: nickcarraway

A sexy atmosphere is not what I think of when contemplating fine dining.


12 posted on 06/13/2024 1:58:19 PM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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To: Sir Bangaz Cracka

B.I.N.G.O!


13 posted on 06/13/2024 2:00:33 PM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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To: nickcarraway

<>This Restaurant Banned People Under 30, and the Internet’s Got Intense Opinions<>

Grammar cringe.

Food and Wine needs a new editor.


14 posted on 06/13/2024 2:08:34 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Sir Bangaz Cracka

I have to agree after having to withdraw from a cosmetology school. Many 20-somethings today need to experience some REAL world consequences that haven’t yet, having had everything handed to them on a platter while sitting in a public school. It almost put me into despair, but my dad harped a lot on “natural selection,” so they’ll weed THEMSELVES out. Maybe then we can get back to kids turning into an adult during their teens.


15 posted on 06/13/2024 2:16:32 PM PDT by pops88 ( Helping usher the glory of God into Las Vegas)
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To: nickcarraway

Here is the menu: https://www.zmenu.com/bliss-restaurant-florissant-online-menu/

Jamaican and African dishes.
I’m hungry now.


16 posted on 06/13/2024 2:31:48 PM PDT by Doctor Congo
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To: nickcarraway
Florissant is in North St. Louis County, not too far from the Ferguson of Saint Gentle Giant Michael Brown fame.


17 posted on 06/13/2024 2:38:03 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: Chickensoup

It’s a private business. Up to them.

No one has a right to just be there.


18 posted on 06/13/2024 2:43:50 PM PDT by Fledermaus (We Are Now In A Civil War!)
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To: cherry

Have you seen how snotty kids act in restaurants? Especially the ones with jerk parents?


19 posted on 06/13/2024 2:46:32 PM PDT by Fledermaus (We Are Now In A Civil War!)
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To: Lazamataz

Why?

You’re free to open your own restaurant.


20 posted on 06/13/2024 2:50:33 PM PDT by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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