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Why homicide rates are falling across the country
The Hill ^ | Apr 21, 2024 | ALEX GANGITANO

Posted on 04/21/2024 6:23:43 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?

Homicides are falling across the U.S. And that shift could impact the role crime — often a top voter concern — plays as an issue in November’s election.

But it is a phenomenon for which experts don’t have a clear explanation.

Some say homicide peaks come and go in cycles, some say policing improved after the COVID-19 pandemic, and some attribute it to the evolving national conversation about how to handle crime.

A data analysis released last week shows that the number of homicides in cities like Boston, Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., and Chicago, are dropping.

While many major cities, especially those run by Democrats with liberal-leaning policies and populations, have received backlash from Republicans for being inundated with violent crime, the new data paints a picture of an improving situation.

Experts, though, aren’t agreed on exactly why the number of homicides has fallen so far, so fast.

Boston saw the sharpest decline from 2023 to 2024, with homicides dropping by 82 percent. In Philadelphia, homicides dropped by 37 percent; in Dallas, homicides dropped by 27 percent; and in Chicago, homicides dropped by 6 percent, according to estimates from city police department reports compiled by AH Datalytics.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: citymurder; crime; homiciderates; murder; murderrates
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To: TexasFreeper2009
it is not like you just cant report it

Are you new here?

21 posted on 04/21/2024 6:56:56 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Many cities/states purposely do not or under report, there’s the reason.


22 posted on 04/21/2024 6:58:03 AM PDT by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Live Free!)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Many cities/states purposely do not or under report, there’s the reason.


23 posted on 04/21/2024 6:58:03 AM PDT by bigfootbob (Arm Up and Live Free!)
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To: ealgeone

Note, also, that something similar was happening back when the first assault rifle ban was put in place. It was atop a years’ long decline in gun crime. So, the idiots who push gun control said : “See, our ban works.”
The law was allowed to lapse in part because every study that looked into it showed that the ban did not even cause a blip in the steady decrease.

This “cooked books” analysis will be (mis)used in the same way. Causation vs correlation.


24 posted on 04/21/2024 6:59:37 AM PDT by bobbo666 (Baizuo, )
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
As radically conservative NPR reports (sarc/) the Ds no longer report the actual info. The True figures are inconvient and will cause people to be uncomfortable with their mal-administration. If you can't see a problem there is no problem.

"Nothing is good or bad but thinking makes is so!"

"Don't worry! Be Happy!"

MARY LOUISE KELLY, HOST:

Crime is a huge topic in elections this November, and the FBI has now entered the chat. It has just released the Crime in the Nation report for 2021. But the bureau switched the way it collects crime data this year, and many police departments did not get on board. Los Angeles and New York City did not report to the FBI. In fact, only 63% of the country's police departments submitted anything, and some of the data that was submitted was incomplete. Weihua Li of The Marshall Project has been poring over the FBI's findings. Hey there.

WEIHUA LI: Hey there, Mary Louise. Thank you for having me.

KELLY: Glad to have you with us. OK. So it seems like some places were very good at submitting data under this new system. Others were very not good. Where are the big blind spots?

LI: Yeah, for sure. So we have some states like California and Florida, where almost no agency in that state submitted any data to the FBI. And there are also a lot of larger cities. You know, the largest police department, New York Police Department, didn't submit anything to the FBI. So a lot of blind spots.

KELLY: A lot of blind spots. I mean, I'm wondering how accurate the numbers can possibly be if - just to take the two biggest cities in the country, New York and LA, they didn't report at all." ...More at link

25 posted on 04/21/2024 7:01:42 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: escapefromboston
"Americans are too lazy to even murder each other anymore"

Yep. Same old story. Everyone just says,

"Let George do it."

26 posted on 04/21/2024 7:01:58 AM PDT by guest7
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
"My initial reaction is that the numbers are being cooked. Some definition changed, reporting criteria changed, etc. in preparation of the election."

I agree that has a lot to do with it. I would also be willing to wager that after 20 years of the GWOT, there have been advances in trauma medicine that have kept some people alive who would have previously succumbed to their wounds. It would be interesting to see the number of homicides vs. The number of attempted homicides.

27 posted on 04/21/2024 7:02:48 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: bigfootbob

Many cities/states purposely do not or under report all the homicides committed by illegals. That goes with “the border is secure”.


28 posted on 04/21/2024 7:05:39 AM PDT by Texas resident (Biden=Obama=Jarrett=Soros)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Of course, if deaths by jabs were included...


29 posted on 04/21/2024 7:06:54 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Constitutional carry?


30 posted on 04/21/2024 7:07:37 AM PDT by moovova ("The NEXT ELECTION is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

There must be a shortage of ammo in the hood. The homeboys are just as violent as ever.


31 posted on 04/21/2024 7:09:50 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: firebrand

Perhaps biometric scans CCP style?


32 posted on 04/21/2024 7:10:54 AM PDT by Theophilus 7
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To: 9YearLurker

I was just thinking that some deaths could be categized as covid instead of homicide. Remember, if they died with covid it was because of covid, worked for a motorcycle accident.


33 posted on 04/21/2024 7:11:06 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall.)
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To: escapefromboston
Americans are too lazy to even murder each other anymore

Don't worry -- we have lots of illegal aliens who are willing to kill the people Americans won't kill.

34 posted on 04/21/2024 7:12:34 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not "Quiet Quitting" -- it's "Going Galt".)
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To: firebrand

i should have added local and national databases of criminals making that six main reasons to eight main reason ... the biggie national DBs are NCIC, AFIS (Automated Fingerprint Identification System: national database of all fingerprints taken, criminal or otherwise, along with nearly instantaneous computer matching), and CODIS (COmbined DNA Index System: database of criminal DNA)


35 posted on 04/21/2024 7:15:51 AM PDT by catnipman (A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Bingo! How is the term 'homicide' categorized? Very likely, this report is reflecting homicides that are prosecuted.

No investigation as to the death of Rashaun? Dead homeless guy in the bushes? Nothing to see here, folks. Homicides are down.

36 posted on 04/21/2024 7:18:06 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is already under the tent.)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

In Gaza, the Hamascide total continues ti escalate


37 posted on 04/21/2024 7:23:03 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

Nobody died with or because of Covid. (Denis Rancourt has the best global to local data on this.)

They died first by deadly, never before implemented, protocols (backed by massive financial incentives)—which should be classified as murder. (Jessica Hockett has good data on the example of NYC that was used to scare the world into the jabs.)

Then they died from what clearly were knowing deadly jabs—which should be classified as murder.


38 posted on 04/21/2024 7:37:58 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: catnipman; firebrand

More people are getting away with murder. Unsolved killings reach a record high
APRIL 30, 2023
“The U.S. among the worst at solving murders in the industrialized world”
“While the rate at which murders are solved or “cleared” has been declining for decades, it has now dropped to slightly below 50% in 2020 - a new historic low. And several big cities, including Chicago, have seen the number of murder cases resulting in at least one arrest dip into the low to mid-30% range.”

https://www.npr.org/2023/04/29/1172775448/people-murder-unsolved-killings-record-high


39 posted on 04/21/2024 7:39:13 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: where's_the_Outrage?

It’s possible the murder rate is dropping.
It’s also possible it has nothing to do with politics.

It’s proven there is a correlation between testosterone and crime. Teen to late 20s men have the most and commit the most murders. A further factor is family size, more children per equate to generally more Crime (other factors equal like religiosity).

The US population is aging and families have fewer children. See the graph showing the projected graph of demographics by age. We are moving from a pyramid shape to a tapered column shape.

Biden has nothing to do with that but of course he will try and take credit.

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/newsroom/blogs/2016/06/americas-age-profile-told-through-population-pyramids/Chart-1.png


40 posted on 04/21/2024 7:42:29 AM PDT by Phoenix8
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