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ATF Preparing Rule To Regulate Private Gun Sales, Requiring Background Check
msn ^ | 6 feb 2924 | Andrew Sanders •

Posted on 02/06/2024 7:54:25 AM PST by rellimpank

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) is reportedly preparing a new rule to regulate private gun sales, requiring background checks via the FBI.

Empower Oversight, representing IRS agents in the Hunter Biden case, has raised concerns about the move, calling it an “unconstitutional” power grab.

The group argues that only Congress has the authority to enact such changes due to a 1986 law prohibiting background checks for private firearm sales.

“Such an expansive rule that treats all private citizens the same as federal firearms licensees would circumvent the separation of powers in the Constitution, which grants ‘all legislative Powers’ to Congress while requiring that the President ‘take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed,’” Empower Oversight’s letter read. They also highlighted potential confrontations between ATF agents and private citizens, citing past incidents.

“To the extent such a rule prevents the private sale of firearms, it would also clearly violate the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution, which declares that ‘the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed,’” the letter added.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
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To: NWFree

Bump

I’m 76, have never sold a firearm of any kind. Have bought a few.


21 posted on 02/06/2024 10:25:32 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Barrel first?

Placed where?


22 posted on 02/06/2024 10:26:37 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: rellimpank

So are the going the hire psychics to detect when an unregistered gun is sold between two private individuals with cash and no receipts?


23 posted on 02/06/2024 10:59:36 AM PST by apillar
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To: mikelets456
“Rule”…is it a rule if it’s illegal?

Ask prior bump stock and forced reset trigger owners.

24 posted on 02/06/2024 11:50:22 AM PST by grobdriver (The CDC can KMA!)
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To: rellimpank
...due to a 1986 law prohibiting background checks for private firearm sales.

What law is that?

25 posted on 02/06/2024 12:20:08 PM PST by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: muir_redwoods

So, Bill builds an AR variant in his workshop. It has no S/N nor brand name. Bill sells it to Tom.
= = =

This rule does not change the current law, that Bill already cannot legally sell that gun.


26 posted on 02/06/2024 12:44:11 PM PST by Scrambler Bob
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To: Scrambler Bob

You’re right but…

Laws that cannot reasonably be enforced, diminish respect for all laws. No existing forensics can trace that gun to Bill (assuming both men stay quiet) since Tom is legally allowed to build his own.


27 posted on 02/06/2024 1:01:15 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Democrats!

In the form of LIEberal/Socialist/Marxist/Fascist/Communists!


28 posted on 02/06/2024 2:23:15 PM PST by Taxman ((SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2024! SAVE AMERICA!))
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Democrats!

In the form of LIEberal/Socialist/Marxist/Fascist/Communists!


29 posted on 02/06/2024 2:24:25 PM PST by Taxman ((SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2024! SAVE AMERICA!))
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To: rellimpank

Any government rule that is substantially struck down as unconstitutional, every employee who interacted at ANY level in the promulgation or implementation of said rule should be immediately fired, their pension voided, and they are forever unemployable in the federal government. This punishment can never be rescinded.


30 posted on 02/06/2024 2:33:16 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Yes, he can, unless he made it with the INTENT to sell it.


31 posted on 02/06/2024 2:39:24 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman)
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To: rellimpank

Gun laws are to restrictive for some people, so they ignore them. We have called such people “criminals”. White supremicists, insurrectionist, catholic fascists,....blah blah, I guess the name calling was just propaganda and lies. We are not what we are labelled.


32 posted on 02/06/2024 5:15:32 PM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...

33 posted on 02/06/2024 5:50:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: rellimpank

Performative voter turnout kabuki theatre dog squeeze for Joe’s low info soccer mom voter segment. “He’s trying to do something but the magacourts keep striking it all down...have to donate and vote...”

freegards


34 posted on 02/06/2024 5:59:06 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: rellimpank
Tell Rip Van Winkle that "Goober sez 'Hey!'"


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35 posted on 02/06/2024 6:51:56 PM PST by Paal Gulli
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