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Do GOP ‘Moderates’ Have the Stomach to Block Jim Jordan? (pulling their hair out piece)
Yahoo News ^ | 10/17/23 | Sam Brodey

Posted on 10/17/2023 4:13:51 AM PDT by cotton1706

One by one, GOP lawmakers—colloquially known as “moderates” or “institutionalists” or “establishment Republicans”—have recanted the unequivocal opposition to Jordan they expressed just days ago and thrown their support behind him.

The abrupt shift surprised Rep. Jared Huffman (D-CA), who said on Monday afternoon that he believed “a bipartisan compromise speakership was inevitable just 24 hours ago.”

“The responsible governing types in the Republican conference,” Huffman lamented, “just fold like a cheap suit every time.”

Noting Jordan’s leading efforts to contest the outcome of the 2020 election based on bogus voter fraud claims, Huffman said the fact that Jordan “is going to be holding the gavel in the institution that counts the electoral votes… that is terrifying, frankly.”

“It’s just stunning that all of these Republicans would go along with it,” he said.

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To: cotton1706
Two takes:

I could have sworn that the headline ready "pulling their hair piece out" but realized my mistake. However, I do think that would have been more accurate.

The article's author laments that there aren't sufficient GOP moderates willing to cross the aisle and work with Democrats. I bet that the author also believes that Queen Nancy was a strong leader and the straight party line of the Democrats showed how principled they were. Funny how being a moderate is only good for Republicans in the media's opinion.

21 posted on 10/17/2023 5:28:42 AM PDT by Armando Guerra
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To: cotton1706
Same ol' propaganda from the State-Run Yahoo "news" sh$thole.

The deliberate use of "Moderate", aka, RINO, as opposed to lockstep Democrats who vote as their told, or are de-funded, just shows the repeated talking point promotions of Fake News.

22 posted on 10/17/2023 5:30:59 AM PDT by traditional2 (lets go B*and*n)
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To: Armando Guerra
The article's author laments that there aren't sufficient GOP moderates willing to cross the aisle and work with Democrats

Wait until they count the votes.

23 posted on 10/17/2023 5:35:17 AM PDT by Jim Noble (They have taken untold millions that they never toiled to earn)
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To: cotton1706

About time our sise started steamrolling these pussies, instead of the commies.


24 posted on 10/17/2023 5:39:12 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: cotton1706

Sounds like Jordan has it.
The only reason the MSM has come out to give cover to their Assistant RATS.


25 posted on 10/17/2023 5:46:39 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: cotton1706
“The responsible governing types in the Republican conference,” Huffman lamented, “just fold like a cheap suit every time.”

So True, but they usually fold to the Democrats.

26 posted on 10/17/2023 5:50:07 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: cotton1706

Why would anyone read Yahoo news?


27 posted on 10/17/2023 5:53:43 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: Ge0ffrey

“Why would anyone read Yahoo news?”

I don’t. Every morning I do an article search on particular subjects to see what pops up, to get a feel for what’s trending. And for whatever reason, Yahoo has a lot of articles that are a window into the minds of the opposition.


28 posted on 10/17/2023 5:56:18 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

I know one thing, their priority “reasons” why not to elect Jordan are BS. “He can’t raise as much in campaign funds as the others”. What about PRINCIPLES as a priority???

They don’t care about the people or this country at all, they only care about trying to keep their own asses in congress so they can soak the system.

I can’t figure out how this blatant and obvious fact is so hard to see.


29 posted on 10/17/2023 5:57:20 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Rockingham
..(1) He will not press them to vote against the desires of their district."

iirc, there are 18 such R reps in districts that voted Biden....enough to stop Jordan.

Voting for Jordan as Speaker is not remotely equivalent to a presidential vote so fears should be easily assuaged by Jordan to those 18, and by those 18 to their constituents...

...but then again we know weak-spined RINOs

30 posted on 10/17/2023 6:00:47 AM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'll go ahead.)
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To: Jim Noble
The Supreme Court made a huge mistake hearing that case, and we are still paying for it.

No the Florida Supremes were dead set on stealing the election, they made the mistake, what we are paying for is the Bush family's legacy.

31 posted on 10/17/2023 6:23:29 AM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: cotton1706

It’s well past time that moderates fold!!!
Conservatives have been doing that for far too long!
If Jordan gets Speaker, he better remember who he is, and not acquiesce to DC Republican deep state moderates!


32 posted on 10/17/2023 6:46:47 AM PDT by bantam
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To: itsahoot

If you know your Constitution, you should know that if Article II, Amendment XII and the Electoral Count Act had all been followed, George W. Bush would have become President by perfectly legal and Constitutional means. There was no path for Gore to become President, no matter what SCOFLA did or didn’t do.

If the Constitution were followed, there was a small but non-zero possibility that Joe Lieberman would have become Vice President. In light of the Iraq and Afghanistan disasters, it’s unclear whether that would have been a good thing or not.

The courts were excluded from the electoral system on purpose, by men much wiser than what we have today. If Bush v. Gore was not a nonjusticeable political question, then there is no such thing and we should just have the Supreme Court appoint the President and save all those campaign donations from being flushed down the toilet.


33 posted on 10/17/2023 8:11:21 AM PDT by Jim Noble (They have taken untold millions that they never toiled to earn)
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To: HYPOCRACY
About time our sise started steamrolling these pussies

The GOP is not on your side.

34 posted on 10/17/2023 8:13:07 AM PDT by Jim Noble (They have taken untold millions that they never toiled to earn)
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To: chiller
Every Congressional district has to be analyzed as a political entity in itself. In districts where Biden won the presidential vote in 2020 and the GOP won the House seat in 2022, different coalitions and issues emerged in each election year. Broadly, if the 18 such GOP House members feel stronger with Trump on the ballot against Biden in 2024, then they will be inclined to go with Jordan.

By now, through polling and other measures, most of the 18 have a good sense of how their reelection campaign looks. Since Biden has done a terrible job, my guess is that most of the 18 are fairly secure with Trump on the ballot, especially as incumbents, if they have a large campaign war chest, and no serious primary challenger.

Jordan as GOP Speaker seems certain to be politically and organizationally effective in pushing the GOP agenda, genuinely popular with the GOP base, and attentive to GOP member needs. That is a big plus for him. Neither McCarthy as Speaker nor Scalise nor anyone else as a possible GOP Speaker would offer that combination. So, even for fearful and unreliable RINOs, Jordan is the almost certainly the best choice.

35 posted on 10/17/2023 8:27:41 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

Fox’s Chad Pergram advises there remains some hostility from a few toward Jordan for Scalise and McCarthy treatments, but he does not know how deep. I sense the anger will mellow, perhaps even after the 1st ‘protest’ vote.

A 1st ballot win for Jordan would signal “all in for Jordan” which many are not.

2 ballots, maybe 3 is my guess. Additionally, this is a short term appointment, to be redone in 13 months.


36 posted on 10/17/2023 11:45:45 AM PDT by chiller (Davey Crockett said: "Be sure you're right. Then go ahead'. I'll go ahead.)
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To: chiller

I think that you are fully on the mark.


37 posted on 10/17/2023 11:49:16 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Jim Noble
If you know your Constitution, you should know

You can't use the Constitution as an excuse to break the law and that is what Corrupt Florida Judges were doing.

38 posted on 10/17/2023 1:54:54 PM PDT by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: itsahoot

The Florida Legislature appoints the Electors, correct?

In November 2000, that Legislature was in session, with large GOP majorities, and was prepared to overrule SCOFLA and appoint Bush/Cheney electors and transmit their votes to Washington.

Now, it is POSSIBLE that SCOFLA would have tried to illegally appoint Gore/Lieberman electors.

This has happened before, and it could happen again. The Founders certainly anticipated it happening, and prepared for it.

If SCOTUS had stayed out of it, when the Special Joint Session convened on January 3, 2001, it would have had to decide which Electors to count. President of the Senate Al Gore would have undoubtedly ruled for SCOFLA, which ruling would have been immediately appealed to the floor, where there was a Republican majority, each Representative and Senator having one vote.

The floor could have accepted the FLA Legislature’s Electors or it could have rejected both sets. If they accepted the legally appointed Bush/Cheney Electors, it would have ended right there. If they rejected both, no one would have had a majority.

THe two Houses would then have separated, and the House of Representatives would choose a President, voting by States, not by Members. Under those odd rules, California and Wyoming would each have one vote. There were 30 GOP majority State delegations and 20 Democrat majority State delegations, and George W. Bush would have been legally elected 30-20 in an hour.

When the Senate convened to elect the Vice President, the body was divided 50-50 since Jeffords (R-VT) had switched sides. In the event of a tie between Cheney and Lieberman, the President of the Senate Al Gore would cast the tie-breaking vote , and presumably Joe Lieberman would have been elected VP 51-50.

Allowing SCOTUS to take over this process, which had nothing to do with them and was outside of their authority, was a huge mistake. It messaged that the Constitution couldn’t be trusted to function as designed and that elections, which are supposed to be decided on Election Day, could no longer be trusted without special mandarins from Harvard and Yale Law Schools having their say.


39 posted on 10/17/2023 4:07:49 PM PDT by Jim Noble (They have taken untold millions that they never toiled to earn)
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