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Netanyahu is finished
Pearls and Irritations ^ | 10/15/23 | Seymour Hersh

Posted on 10/15/2023 6:33:26 AM PDT by hardspunned

Decades ago I spent three years writing The Samson Option (1991), an exposé of the unstated policy of American presidents going back to Dwight Eisenhower to look the other way as Israel began the process of building an atomic bomb. The right or wrong for Israel, in the aftermath of the Holocaust, was not the point of the book. My point was that what America was doing was known throughout the Third World, as it was then called, and our duplicity made our worries about the spread of nuclear weapons another example of American hypocrisy. Since then others have undertaken far more comprehensive studies, as some of the most highly classified Israeli and US documents have become public.

(Excerpt) Read more at johnmenadue.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: agitprop; angryrussostooges; bibibashingonfr; bombast; clownshow; cluelessness; golanheights; hamassupporters; hereshisadope; hershisadope; israelhaters; lookwhohatesjews; seymourhersh
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To: hardspunned

Every blogger wants to declare something so they seem in-the-know so they can sell advertising from clicks to their blog.

Every blogger says the most outlandish things to do this, and they use teaser titles to get those click, words like “this” and “that” and “trick” are used, never being specific in the titles so people become curious and click to read their blog.

They also use unnamed sources, like this blog entry did.


41 posted on 10/15/2023 7:04:44 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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To: jimwatx

like Ukraine,

Netanyahu is not dead yet

Russian trolls so sad


42 posted on 10/15/2023 7:04:46 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: hardspunned

Netanyahu really stepped in it this time! It’s all over for him now! The walls are closing in!


43 posted on 10/15/2023 7:05:42 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: canuck_conservative
the only ones supporting baby-murdering Hamas terrorists are Russia, China, and the usual Muslim suspects

Muslims! They're like insane cockroaches - if you see a few of them there are hundreds you don't see.

We've already got 5 million or more of them right here in the USA.

And we know for certain they are already infesting the US congress and the Biden administration.


44 posted on 10/15/2023 7:05:53 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Sun Tzu: An evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes)
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To: hardspunned
Recent released information from the German investigators indicate Ukrainians perps.

"Ljungqvist said he was working with German authorities but declined to provide further comments, citing Swedish investigation confidentiality rules.
The prosecutor told Reuters in April that a state actor's involvement in the blast was the "absolute main scenario", though confirming the identity of the perpetrators could prove difficult.
There have been numerous theories on who blew up the pipelines and how.
Germany has said its investigators raided a ship in January that may have been used to transport the explosives used to blow up the pipelines. German media reported the boat could have been used by a small Ukrainian or pro-Ukrainian group.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/swedish-prosecutor-hopes-conclude-nord-stream-enquiry-by-year-end-2023-09-20/

45 posted on 10/15/2023 7:07:46 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: SaveFerris

Thank you for the clarification.


46 posted on 10/15/2023 7:08:03 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Attention terrorists! has Joe Biden forgot to fund your cell? get in on the $$$ giveaway.)
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To: BipolarBob

You’re welcome. It’s gotten muddied over the years.

IIRC this was what Golda Meir was telling Richard Nixon would occur in a worst-case scenario as they were being overwhelmed.

Richard Nixon immediately called for an airlift and reportedly, when possible, delivered tanks were driven off the aircraft and into battle (as I recall reading).

Hope they had plenty of fuel. Well, it worked, anyways.


47 posted on 10/15/2023 7:10:35 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: hardspunned

Just another liberal schmuck taking a run at Bebe. All those libs protesting against him probably fueled Hamas to attack when they did. Could it be that if they destroy Bebe, it will be a long time for Israel to recover?


48 posted on 10/15/2023 7:10:44 AM PDT by kenmcg (ti hi o)
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To: jerod

Well, I suppose, if you overlook the 2 millennia that they didn’t exist as a result of…being defeated.


49 posted on 10/15/2023 7:11:01 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (“We should not assume civilization is robust”)
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To: hardspunned

Your comments somehow remind me of the stuffing in a Thanksgiving turkey.


50 posted on 10/15/2023 7:11:11 AM PDT by Wdempsey (Democrats and slinkys.. Both useless but fun to push down stairs.)
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To: Rummyfan
Bibi probably is finished. When this is all done, someone is going to have to take the blame, and as PM Netanyahu will be first in line.

Netanyahu always marketed himself as Mr. Security, and this was his greatest failure. Politically, I don't know how he escapes fault since this happened on his watch.
51 posted on 10/15/2023 7:11:28 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: pepsionice

Yes. Seymour Hersch has always been a CIA mouthpiece. His description totally omits the role of senior Israeli military and intelligence people obsessed with preventing and then overthrowing the democratically elected Netanyahu government, and doing it with the American Deep State’s cover and financing. Those military and intelligence people were completely negligent.

Even former Leftist Israeli PMs Ehud Olmert and Ehud Barak have been openly seditious, advocating disruption and violence.

Without the immediate political background, there’s no understanding at all.


52 posted on 10/15/2023 7:15:03 AM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: hardspunned

Bkmrk


53 posted on 10/15/2023 7:17:59 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear ("Equity" = "All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others.")
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To: jjotto

thank you for adding that context

certain parties want to get rid of Netanyahu, just because he’s effective


54 posted on 10/15/2023 7:18:28 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: Dr. Franklin

It doesn’t matter really.

Hamas is going to be gone.

Hezbollah may be around but lacks the wherewithall to be of much danger.

With Gaza destroyed and unable to be a threat for a very long time, Bibi has done the job and someone else can take over.

Those, including several here, who lack any intellectual ability to accomplish anything but tounge wag about blame are just ordinary run of the mill worthless people


55 posted on 10/15/2023 7:22:14 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Joe Biden is a kleptocrat)
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To: Wdempsey

I find the idea of you somehow considering me and salivating very unsettling.


56 posted on 10/15/2023 7:22:20 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: MNJohnnie

MNJohnnie wrote: “No one takes Seymour Hersh seriously. His game is to post the most ridiculous anti US propaganda he can dream up. He always claims to have “ secret sources” so he get a whole lot of attention from the Fake News. Then when his nonsense is exposed he goes back into the shadows until the next thing happens that he then rushes out to publish his “bombshell” claims again. He is a joke, not a serious source of insight”

There are several here on FR who do take Seymour Hersh seriously. They’re the same ones spouting anti-semitic and pro-Putin propaganda.


57 posted on 10/15/2023 7:35:07 AM PDT by DugwayDuke (Most pick the expert who says the things they agree with.)
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To: hardspunned

Benjamin Netanyahu is the “Machiavelli” of our times but his enemies want him out.

One way Netanyahu sought to survive is by letting Qatar put money into Gaza to placate Hamas.

That is being used against him right now.


58 posted on 10/15/2023 7:35:19 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: DeplorablePaul

Focusing on the intelligence failure gets the focus off the atrocities.


59 posted on 10/15/2023 7:37:07 AM PDT by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: hardspunned

Bibi will win this war and be forced out of power by the Liberal left in Israel and the USA. A new attempt will be made to make Land for peace work. Israel will be cut in half (as in Ancient Times) In time Peace will come for the two lands.


60 posted on 10/15/2023 7:42:28 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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