Buyer’s Remorse: Why Are 20% Of Early EV Adopters Now Defecting to Internal Combustion?

MSN ^ | 09/04/2023 | Henry Cesari

[ChicagoConservative27]

Is our honeymoon with the electric vehicle finally over? A study found that one in five early adopters of EV cars and trucks are returning to gas-powered vehicles. As a result, used EV prices are freefalling.

The Journal Nature published a study revealing that of the folks who were early adopters of EVs in California (between 2012 and 2018), 20% of PHEV drivers have returned to fully gas-powered vehicles and 18% of full EV drivers returned to gas-powered–with their subsequent vehicle purchase.

[Menes]

You and Mr. Entropy12 are absolutely right. Horses for courses, as the old saying goes :-)

[central_va]

The first EV vs Steam vs ICE auto propulsion war was fought over 100 years ago and ICE won. ICE won then for the same reason ICE is winning the current redux ICE vs EV war.

[central_va]

The Dilan Mulvany LTD edition Tesla LOL!!!.

[Moltke]

But I have some experience with an electric bike

With an electric bike, you can at least peddle your way home when the battery runs out.

Perhaps that's the solution! Add peddles to EVs!

[dfwgator]

Perhaps that's the solution! Add peddles to EVs!

"Flintstone It!"

[rlmorel]

Hahahahahahahaha! Am I being pursued by a Grammar Nazi?

Well! I am a Grammar Nazi Hunter!

I hope you realize this is all in good humor...:)

I don't mind taking grammar tips at all...I have an inflated sense of my vocabulary, but I admit, there are certain grammar things I have always had issues with, so anytime I get advice I view it as a plus!

I mean it. Years ago, I had grown to use the word "like" as a crutch, and a painful realization it was for me to have reached, since I especially dislike that verbal tic.

But I had someone I admired greatly politely point it out, and while I was internally crestfallen and embarrassed, I am forever grateful because it made me introspective with respect to verbal communication, and in the end, it really helped me.

So, I thank you for your good natured lesson!

[OKSooner]

Because the windmills always fail when the weather is the worst.

Gee... why didn't they tell us that? /s

[OKSooner]

Well that's a new name for him. One always thought it was ****hole Pete.

NTTAWWT.

[rlmorel]

LOL, oh yes, tie them into the windmill on top and the upper surface covered by solar panels!

As for pedaling, probably the third time I took an eBike like mine out (loaned by a friend who wasn’t using it, so I could try it) I thought I understood the battery use perfectly well.

I had it down pat.

Or, so I thought.

I ran out of both daylight and battery juice, on a cold New England November evening about six miles from my house.

So...I pedaled. The bike is a sixty-pound eBike, which means it is built like a tank and can take punishment (which it has, without barely a scratch) but to pedal it?

Boy. I could do that for a mile. But six miles in slightly rolling terrain? LOL, I was warm on that crisp evening, but I never ran out of battery power since then.

I purchased an ebike for my wife, and I 3D printed a lockable battery box to carry two spares, one for each of us.

Can’t do that on an electric car.

[Elsie]

Your mower is probably a rebranded MTD, as they make all types of mowers for other folks who put their logos on them.

https://totalgardener.com/mtd-same-craftsman/

This summer I had to resurrect an old mower that had been replaced with a zero turn model.

Variuos things were wrong with it but were easily fixable.

Turned out I have 3 mowers, different labels, same guts under the hood: all MTDs.

Wife said, “Why don’t you buy a new one?”

So I looked at the three hardware stores nearby and found nearly the exact same mower I had just repaired - all different logos and less metal and more plastic.

Engines the same - the carburators the same - the location and function of all the levers the same.

The price?

WAY different: right at $2000 for each of them!

(Honey; this is why I spent less than &200 to repair one.)

[Elsie]

You got lucky.

Sometimes I come across as very bitchy!

(Do you Catch & Release?)

[Elsie]

Well... you COULD...

[rlmorel]

"Do you Catch & Release?"

You bet I do!

I caught this a week or two ago off the Southern Coast of Maine:

I had to throw back two that were around this size, and a couple that were too small! (They only let you keep them if they were 29-31 inches long. The one above is 44 inches!)

Between me and my buddy, we got one we could keep, and it was enough for us to each have two meals out of! I rank that (for me) right next to Halibut as my favorite fish...:)

[Antoninus]

I can’t imagine who would buy a used EV. If the main component fails (the battery), you’re looking at a huge bill — a bill so big you’re better off scrapping the thing and buying a used ICE car.

[TexasGator]

“I do NOT believe that chart one bit!”

Chart is real data. Believe it.

[TexasGator]

“POI; how long do mower EV batteries last before replacement ? (not recharging)”

I mow about once a week. My mower battery is seven years old.

The mower has paid for itself in gas savings!

[TexasGator]

“Kobalt. Love love LOVE the mower. Self propelled.”

Love mine but got the push model for forced exercise. On sale but one factor was that HD does service.

Not a real factor as no service required!

I did drill a hole so that the handel locks in place when folded.

[TexasGator]

“And it isn’t an easy calculation. “

Tesla does it for you.

[17th Miss Regt]

Because the Second Law of Thermodynamics reigns supreme...

If the Supreme Court declares the law unconstitutional, then that law is a legal nullity and has no force.

There are at least three Supreme Court justices that would agree. (Can you guess which ones?)

[Moltke]

Ah, yes, the Flintstone panels under the floormats. LOL. (And why did I write peddles instead of pedals? Duh!)