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Buyer’s Remorse: Why Are 20% Of Early EV Adopters Now Defecting to Internal Combustion?
MSN ^ | 09/04/2023 | Henry Cesari

Posted on 09/04/2023 11:20:39 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

Is our honeymoon with the electric vehicle finally over? A study found that one in five early adopters of EV cars and trucks are returning to gas-powered vehicles. As a result, used EV prices are freefalling.

The Journal Nature published a study revealing that of the folks who were early adopters of EVs in California (between 2012 and 2018), 20% of PHEV drivers have returned to fully gas-powered vehicles and 18% of full EV drivers returned to gas-powered–with their subsequent vehicle purchase.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


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KEYWORDS: automotive; buyers; defecting; electric; ev; remorse; wboopie
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To: entropy12

That’s the central point concerning EVs. This isn’t a one size fits all country.

If EVs had been left up to market forces (instead of being driven by environmental extremism and government subsidizes and mandates—like they’re the bosses of what we should buy) EVs would have found their proper niche in the marketplace.

We all have different needs and requirements and circumstances and resources and on and on.

Freedom of choice. We used to believe in that in America.


61 posted on 09/04/2023 12:38:42 PM PDT by aligncare ( Make America America Again…Trump 2024)
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To: Jacquerie

“become financially unfixable”

It’s ironic because today’s cars suffer that exact problem. My son is terrible at maintaining his car and is doing a LOT of catch-up work on maintenance now. It is hugely expensive to do it all at once after ignoring it for years. The complexity of cars, the huge number of control systems, the electronics, the labor cost of $200/hour. What a mess.

Cars prior to 1980 (or so) were easy to work on and everything was accessible. Not any more.


62 posted on 09/04/2023 12:42:09 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

“Cars prior to 1980 (or so) were easy to work on and everything was accessible. Not any more.”

Yep! And the work was constant! Now it is common to go 100k+ with no repairs

I punt 100k hard miles on a Mustang with only normal maintenance.


63 posted on 09/04/2023 12:48:26 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: entropy12

So do they blow up like the cars after being exposed to salt water?


64 posted on 09/04/2023 12:51:10 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

So if 20% of EV owners go back to ICE vehicles, that means 80% keep their EVs. It sounds to me like a lot more stay EV than go back.


65 posted on 09/04/2023 1:02:43 PM PDT by POWG
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To: entropy12
Now I use battery powered lawn mower made by Ryobi.

I bought one of those. Used it for mowing two weeks. Each week, I had to recharge the battery 4 times, because, the charge only lasted 20 minutes. Took hours each week to mow the lawn, but not because I had a big lawn; recharging took at least an hour each time.

The third week, P put it outside by the sidewalk with a sign that read: Take For Free" . Never again getting any battery-powered anything except small electronics and toys and smartphones.
66 posted on 09/04/2023 1:06:04 PM PDT by adorno
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To: Reno89519

A hybrid a different animal.


67 posted on 09/04/2023 1:12:04 PM PDT by aspasia
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
I hope long periods of no use does not negatively affect them

I have a Prius hybrid with 359,000 miles on the clock...needed a second re-built engine at 160,000 miles.

Original battery ,,,car in daily use...2 drivers

Now needs set of shock absorbers.

Occasional use is not good for EV batteries.

68 posted on 09/04/2023 1:19:40 PM PDT by spokeshave (Proud Boys, Angry Dads. Grumpy Grandads & Curmudgeons)
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To: spokeshave

“...needed a second re-built engine at 160,000 miles.”

Do you think doing that was the economical way to go? Our son’s 2016 Ford Escape 1.6L EcoBoost engine has a design flaw that lets coolant into the combustion chambers and causes all sorts of havoc. We looked at a rebuilt engine, but putting a remanufactured engine into an old car with 230k on the clock just seemed like a poor investment.


69 posted on 09/04/2023 1:25:44 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

All these electric appliances, lawnmowers, leaf blowers, snow blowers, are nice, but unless you have solar panels at your house and you are completely off the grid, your utility is probably polluting for you.

It is going to be years before “renewable” technology outpaces burning gasoline.


70 posted on 09/04/2023 1:38:11 PM PDT by SteelPSUGOP
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To: joshua c

Total elimination of The Department of Transportation is what I want.


71 posted on 09/04/2023 1:38:23 PM PDT by anoldafvet
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To: SteelPSUGOP

“It is going to be years before “renewable” technology outpaces burning gasoline.”

It will NEVER do that. The specific energy density is way too low to harvest economically, without despoiling a million square miles of land, killing agriculture (urea fertilizer, land use, and liquid hydrocarbon fuels), finding the unobtainable utility-scale energy storage, and killing untold numbers of birds, insects, and ocean life.

It is such a loser proposition I can’t believe people believe in it. But the innumeracy of the people is also beyond belief. They are like Dorothy clicking the ruby slippers and “believe.”


72 posted on 09/04/2023 2:08:01 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Child labor in mines is probably not one of the reasons.


73 posted on 09/04/2023 2:13:05 PM PDT by Neverlift
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To: ChicagoConservative27

74 posted on 09/04/2023 2:26:00 PM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I bought a Ryobi snowblower.

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I have an older model gasoline powered but very easy to start. I just plug it in to an A.C. outlet and push a button to engage the electric starter


75 posted on 09/04/2023 2:43:49 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I bought a Ryobi snowblower.

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I have an older model gasoline powered but very easy to start. I just plug it in to an A.C. outlet and push a button to engage the electric starter


76 posted on 09/04/2023 2:43:49 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: ChicagoConservative27

No one hates planet earth more than an electric vehicle owner.


77 posted on 09/04/2023 2:53:01 PM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Actually, they are good except the problem of charging. I can charge from 10-80% in 18 minutes at a fast charger. Whereas Tesla has chargers all over the place for other EVs, not so much. It is really frustrating to pull into a charging station when you are on the road only to find half the chargers are out of order and the others are in use. At home it is great charging overnight. My worry is where the electricity is going to come from in the near future.


78 posted on 09/04/2023 3:41:41 PM PDT by willk (Local news media. Just as big an enemy to this country as national media.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Toyota is developing a solid-state battery that could achieve an impressive 745 miles on a single charge, without any driving restrictions.
Solid-state batteries have higher energy density and can be smaller and lighter than other types of batteries, potentially halving the size of EV batteries.
Supposed to be ready by 2025.


79 posted on 09/04/2023 3:45:56 PM PDT by willk (Local news media. Just as big an enemy to this country as national media.)
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To: AnthonySoprano
SCAM from the beginning

The Biden administration became the traveling circus snake oil salesmen. Billions in flashy adverts, fireworks, threats of mandates, gaslighting at thermonuclear levels non-stop to wear everyone down.

80 posted on 09/04/2023 4:22:20 PM PDT by USCG SimTech
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