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Hot Air's Ed Morrissey had a not-so-gentle reminder for the accused: “The first rule of Federal Indictment Club is: you don’t talk about your case. And the second rule of Federal Indictment Club is: you don’t talk about your case, period.”

Emphasis and italics in the original because Ed, who is one of the fairest and most level-headed people I know, isn’t kidding around here.

“The surest way to help the prosecution,” Ed added, “is to go on television and make a damaging admission about the key element of a charge.”

Please note that Ed said “damaging” and not “damning.” The former hurts the defendant’s case. The latter is “Go directly to Jail, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.”

“Skip over the first 31 counts regarding the documents themselves in the indictment and go to counts 32 and 33,” Ed wrote, which involve “conspiracy to obstruct justice and withholding a record from a federal grand jury.” It’s there that Trump did “tacitly agree with the indictment’s allegation in attempting to justify his actions.”

What we have here, then, is a statement on Fox News that almost certainly doesn’t rise to the level of Trump practically convicting himself before his trial even begins but certainly complicates his defense.

1 posted on 06/20/2023 10:02:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Ed is a never trumper and NOT level headed in the slightest.

The answer is NO.


2 posted on 06/20/2023 10:03:59 AM PDT by Skywise
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I’ll confess that I cringed when I heard the “too busy” line.


3 posted on 06/20/2023 10:05:11 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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Why couldn’t he just not talk about the case? Seems like that would be a smart move.


7 posted on 06/20/2023 10:09:12 AM PDT by BradtotheBone (When I die I want the GOP to be my Pallbearers, so they can let me down one last time.)
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He referred to the national archives not the grand jury.


8 posted on 06/20/2023 10:09:57 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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They are his documents


9 posted on 06/20/2023 10:10:06 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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The only thing that matters as far as I’m concerned is disparate treatment. This is obviously nothing more than an attempt to destroy Trump & any sane judge would have to see that. Still, Trump has always been his own worst enemy when it comes to talking. I’m sure his lawyers have warned him, but he won’t be hindered.


10 posted on 06/20/2023 10:10:52 AM PDT by Twotone
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> let’s start with Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden <

Well, yes. But it’s important to note a difference between those two scoundrels and Trump. Hillary chooses her words very carefully. And Biden says next to nothing of importance (his handlers make sure of that).

On the other hand, Trump says whatever comes to mind at the moment. His statements are unfiltered, and honest. That doesn’t mean he’s dumb. It does mean he’s naive.


11 posted on 06/20/2023 10:10:59 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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Wasn’t the grand jury from after the fbi raided his home ?


12 posted on 06/20/2023 10:11:23 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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Trump has the RIGHT to remain silent. He just doesn’t have the ABILITY to remain silent.


15 posted on 06/20/2023 10:13:09 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (It's science and therefore cannot be questioned!)
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Hillary’s attorneys were allowed...with no supervision and probably no security clearance to delete anything they wanted...under the guise that they were private. I think they deleted something like 33,000 documents.


16 posted on 06/20/2023 10:13:11 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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Seems a reasonable explanation. The National Archives owns the docs retained after a President or Vice President leaves office, and they requested some back, many got sent. They said that some they wanted back were still missing and Trump is supposed to send them back as well...all according to the applicable law: The Presidential Records Act of 1977. It seems reasonable that it might take him a while to locate the particular additional docs if he really had them.

Has nothing to do with the phony charges which cite the Espionage Act and has never ever applied to former Presidents or Vice Presidents until suddenly now after over a century since it existed.

19 posted on 06/20/2023 10:14:33 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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Wait, so the Grand Jury is allowed to see the documents but Trump’s lawyers are not?


21 posted on 06/20/2023 10:14:41 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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He has already claimed he had legitimately personal items in those boxes, such as his Last Will and Testament. Like his tax returns, that is his private business not something you turn over to people who arguably have a vendetta and want to cause you as much harm as possible.

In addition, imagine the chaos of that move. You are on the job literally until the last second, and then everything has to go. So of course they pack all kinds of things up and move them at the last minute. I’d also tend to believe him when he says they may have put some personal documents inside folders that said “classified” - maybe not the smartest thing to do, but just because the folder says classified doesn’t mean there is anything in it that is a government secret.

And even if it were, there is still the argument that he, as POTUS, has the right to declassify anything in the most informal of manners. The argument I’ve heard is that there is no real process to declassify a document, if you are POTUS you decide by how you handle it.


22 posted on 06/20/2023 10:15:36 AM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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Trump did not establish a time line in his statement. When it comes to handing them over it is not clear at what point he did not want to hand them over. We could be talking about a time before he was even asked to hand them over. Trump didn’t say here that he ignored any such request or demand. And it seems unclear what Nara actually asked for and when they asked for it. At one point Trump was just asked to put an extra lock on the door. Why would they ask him to do that if they were demanding the documents? A lot does not add up.


30 posted on 06/20/2023 10:18:55 AM PDT by Revel
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The documents were in boxes with my golf shirts was not a good answer.


36 posted on 06/20/2023 10:24:06 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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Either he is authorized to have them, or he is not. Referencing timelines for returning any of it is a red-herring in an attempt to make him look guilty of something. Critical thinking is needed here. Don’t be a dupe for the corrupt administrative state’s propaganda.


46 posted on 06/20/2023 10:34:36 AM PDT by TheElectionWasStolen
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Trump has nothing to hide. He listens to questions and answers them.


47 posted on 06/20/2023 10:34:57 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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Well, he did himself no favors.


50 posted on 06/20/2023 10:38:30 AM PDT by Fury
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What’s the law got to do with it?

Trump’s not taking the case seriously and I can’t blame him.

So what if Trump gets convicted?

A Trump conviction will be weighed against the Biden non-convictions.

This is a political prosecution intended to keep Trump’s name off the 2024 ballot.

That is the end game although the hard core Marxists have wet dreams of Trump being incarcerated.


52 posted on 06/20/2023 10:40:59 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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The Presidential Records Act AND the Courts have determined that The President is the lone determinant of which records he can keep.

The Grand Jury has no superior authority and can't compel him to 'testify against himself' or provide ammo for a fishing expedition.

55 posted on 06/20/2023 10:43:32 AM PDT by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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