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The stupidest government idea ever: They're proposing that the Census ask people under an honor system to identify their ancestors’ slave status.
American Thinker ^ | 04/07/2023 | Kathleen Brush

Posted on 04/07/2023 8:57:36 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The government is presently considering modifying the Census to identify recipients for reparations. If the idea is operationalized, a possible future headline will be “2030 Census Shows America Has a Black Majority.” That would confirm that this was the U.S. government’s most brain-dead idea ever. However, with a couple of tweaks, it could be a brilliant idea.

The government’s idea (at page A6) is to ask all who check the “black” race box on the Census if they are descended from American slaves. The Census is not validated, and there’s nothing in the plan to change that. Anyone can check the boxes for “black” race and slave descendant—and now he or she has been identified as a candidate for free “reparations” money should it be paid.

It’s pretty clear that, in America, identity trumps biology, and people can change their identity on any given day, like the day the Census is completed. It’s not like this doesn’t happen all the time. The multiracial population jumped from 9 million in 2010 to 33.8 million in 2020. The number of people who identify as American Indian or Native Alaskan jumped 75% between 2010 and 2020, and in the same period, the number of Latinos identifying as white fell from 26.7 million to 12.6 million. Meanwhile, the white-identifying population fell by 31 million. With all the white supremacy and white racism blarney, who could blame anyone for not wanting to identify as white?

If some are enticed by the possibility of free money but are reluctant to identify as both black and descended from slaves because they don’t look or feel black, they should consider that, under long-standing American policy, they still could be black.


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KEYWORDS: census; reparations; slavery
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America has always used the one-drop rule to identify if someone is black. From the 17th to 19th centuries, free and enslaved blacks and free or indentured whites worked side by side in the fields and homes, and they formed sexual unions all the time. There were also plenty of other black and white sexual unions.


1 posted on 04/07/2023 8:57:36 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I think everyone should check the “black” box. If 90% of Americans are black, what happens to reparations?


2 posted on 04/07/2023 9:03:55 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: SeekAndFind

The real question will be “Did your ancestors own slaves?” With the records being easily available via genealogical websites, this information will be compiled and then used for various ‘purposes’. If, for example, publicly available historic census forms show that your ancestors had slaves in their household, watch out.


3 posted on 04/07/2023 9:06:28 PM PDT by drwoof
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To: Cronos

RE: I think everyone should check the “black” box.

Isn’t it a felony to lie on a census form?


4 posted on 04/07/2023 9:06:36 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Why on Earth would anyone admit that their ancestors owned slaves, even if they knew that?


5 posted on 04/07/2023 9:11:18 PM PDT by DarrellZero
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To: SeekAndFind

What about those who fought to free the slaves?

I have two GGGrandfathers who took up arms for the Union; one of whom became very ill with typhus during the siege of Petersburg.

I have a Great Uncle and a GG Uncle who gave the ultimate sacrifice for the Union...one of whom was wounded in action and died in a Confederate prison camp.

My wife has ancestors who fought for the Union; one wounded at Little Round Top at Gettysburg; another who survived Andersonville.

Screw “reparations”—we’ve done our part!


6 posted on 04/07/2023 9:16:06 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, considering the one drop blood, I’m pretty sure if we dig back 2000 years quite a lot of folks have one “bkack” ancestor. Especially if one uses the incorrect logic of all “Africans” being black


7 posted on 04/07/2023 9:18:03 PM PDT by Cronos
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jeez, the next census cycle is only 7 years away.


8 posted on 04/07/2023 9:18:08 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bluntly I hate the race checkbox in the consensus. It hides real cultural differences.

Heck a white skinned person in Harlem has more in common with his neighbours than with a white skinned person in Connecticut.

And similarly a black skinned person in Louisiana has more in common with their neighbours than eith a black person from Senegal or a black person from Manhattan.

We should ask for ethnic origin if at all. And definitely about family wealth and earnings. That latter would give more useful data to help the poor rise out of poverty


9 posted on 04/07/2023 9:21:29 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: lightman

Well technically then you should get some reparations too.


10 posted on 04/07/2023 9:22:30 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve been doing my family genealogy for about 20 years. One of the first things I learned is that censuses are the biggest load of crap you come across while doing your research. Take everything with a grain of salt. When searching, make sure you use a combination of the letters in your family name put in any order. Nothing you find is entirely correct. You’re going to get 5 million bucks, new cars, a home, an annual salary of $190,000 for TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY YEARS and the bass turds think a negro is going to say, “Nope! No Slaves in my family tree.” ROTFL. Honor system my ***!


11 posted on 04/07/2023 9:22:50 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (It's time to indict the Dung Beetle Party's token affirmative action chubby cheeked shyster lawyer.)
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To: Cronos
Well technically then you should get some reparations too.

At least a Veteran's pension.

12 posted on 04/07/2023 9:24:55 PM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Cronos

I hate all of those type of checkboxes to and refuse to mark them off if I camn get away with it.


13 posted on 04/07/2023 9:42:39 PM PDT by dominusobiscum (A Christians true heart can be revealed by how they treat others anonymously on discussion forums.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Irish were slaves for 100 years under British rule. I swear.


14 posted on 04/07/2023 10:00:17 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: SeekAndFind
No, it's not a felony.

ABA Legal Fact Check: It Is Illegal to Refuse to Answer Census Questions

Under the relevant census law, refusal to answer all or part of the census carries a $100 fine. The penalty goes up to $500 for giving false answers. In 1976, Congress eliminated both the possibility of a 60-day prison sentence for noncompliance and a one-year prison term for false answers.

However, the fine could be significantly higher than $100 for purposely avoiding questions. The Sentencing Reform Act of 1984 increased the fine for any criminal misdemeanor to as much as $5,000, effectively raising the penalty fiftyfold for refusing to answer a census question. Any prosecution would be handled by the U.S. Department of Justice, and a census spokeswoman has said, “We view this approach as a last resort.”

In fact, there have only been a handful of prosecutions for noncompliance in the history of the census, and none since 1970, according to media reports.


15 posted on 04/07/2023 10:06:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (Woke is a cancer of the mind and humanity)
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To: kvanbrunt2

I have Jewish blood in my veins.

Half the world either tried to or enslaved the Jewish people.

Check, please!


16 posted on 04/07/2023 10:08:29 PM PDT by TheWriterTX (Trust not in earthly princes....!)
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To: lightman
What about those who fought to free the slaves?

Ditto here. 2 of my ancestors from NH and 2 from VT died in the Civil War.

I want my blood money!

But more than that, I and a lot of folks that don't know it descend from WHITE slaves.

People captured by the St. Francis Indians, marched to Quebec, most sold to the French as slaves, a few kept by the Indians as slaves.

But wait! There's more!

I also descend from Quebec French, some of which may have owned some of my English ancestors.

Do I owe myself reparations?

There are few pure bred blacks who descend from slaves in the USA.

Do a lot of them owe themselves reparations?

17 posted on 04/07/2023 10:10:02 PM PDT by Mogger
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To: TheWriterTX

I found out at age 50, after my father was long gone, that I am at least 1/8th French.
From my father’s side.

Someone at least owes me an apology!


18 posted on 04/07/2023 10:11:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Woke is a cancer of the mind and humanity)
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To: SeekAndFind

So every Jewish person checks the slave status box then, right?


19 posted on 04/07/2023 10:21:42 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) Rufus T Firefly lives on. )
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To: SeekAndFind

If you go back far enough everyone has an ancestor that was a slave.


20 posted on 04/07/2023 10:37:34 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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