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Mexican president to US: Fentanyl is your problem
AP ^ | March 9, 2023 | MARK STEVENSON

Posted on 03/09/2023 6:25:51 PM PST by McGruff

Mexico’s president said Thursday that his country does not produce or consume fentanyl, despite enormous evidence to the contrary.

President Andrés Manuel López Obrador appeared to depict the synthetic opioid epidemic largely as a U.S. problem, and said the United States should use family values to fight drug addiction.

His statement came during a visit to Mexico by Liz Sherwood-Randall, the White House homeland security adviser, to discuss the fentanyl crisis. It also comes amid calls by some U.S. Republicans to use the U.S. military to attack drug labs in Mexico.

The Mexican government has acknowledged in the past that fentanyl is produced at labs in Mexico using precursor chemicals imported from China. Fentanyl has been blamed for about 70,000 opioid deaths per year in the United States.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amlo; china; drugwar; fentanyl; mexico; obrador; warondrugs
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That's who we should be at war with.
1 posted on 03/09/2023 6:25:51 PM PST by McGruff
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To: McGruff

My proposed phase 1 plan.

200 mile dmz from our border into mexico. Given one week to leave the area. After one week we send planes and drones for live fire training and eliminate any people found there with the exception of any obviously put out there bythe cartel attemtping to have us execute them for them.

And we totally clean out those 200 miles. Any moving vehicles, any people, are targets until they’re destroyed. And it stays like this for 10 years.

After 10 years we re-assess. But by then it will be a normal testing and training area so it will probably stay.


2 posted on 03/09/2023 6:31:57 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: McGruff

We are under an invasion by Mexico and the Rats don’t care.


3 posted on 03/09/2023 6:34:03 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (It's science and therefore cannot be questioned!)
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To: Secret Agent Man

President Donald J. Trump in 2020 asked Mark T. Esper, his defense secretary, about the possibility of launching missiles into Mexico to “destroy the drug labs” and wipe out the cartels, maintaining that the United States’ involvement in a strike against its southern neighbor could be kept secret, Mr. Esper recounts in his upcoming memoir.

Those remarkable discussions were among several moments that Mr. Esper described in the book, “A Sacred Oath,” as leaving him all but speechless when he served the 45th president.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/us/politics/mark-esper-book-trump.html


4 posted on 03/09/2023 6:35:07 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: everyone

5 posted on 03/09/2023 6:37:31 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: McGruff

A war with Mexico will not get us anything. It’s preposterous.


6 posted on 03/09/2023 6:39:51 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Now, we are waging war on Mexico. We have laws and practices that incentivize so many of the most motivated Mexicans to this country, which has destroyed Mexico.


7 posted on 03/09/2023 6:41:13 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: McGruff

I love that kind of creative thinking!

Personally I think we should make it clear to the cartels that we now have a zero tolerance policy and will hunt down and kill cartel leaders and personnel who traffic fentanyl. Also that we will close the land border to all traffic until concrete actions are taken.

At the same time we need to indicate to China that this is a red line and that further exports of fentanyl components to Mexico will result in confiscation of all Chinese national assets in USA which will be redistributed to victims families.

This is the equivalent of the opium wars and we need to get serious.


8 posted on 03/09/2023 6:41:17 PM PST by KingofZion
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It’s China’s problem...Mexico’s problem...and our problem.


9 posted on 03/09/2023 6:43:17 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (No Doubt Now: Stolen Election)
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To: nickcarraway

Mexico is being destroyed by corruption from within. The cartels own all the politicians as well as most of the police.


10 posted on 03/09/2023 6:43:44 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (It's science and therefore cannot be questioned!)
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To: McGruff

In a way he is right though.

If we as a people can’t take a pass on medication that will
kill us, how can we blame another nation. It was our choice.

I submit that the education system has killed something
inside of our youth, that causes them to want to live.

I don’t buy El Presidente’s opinion, but at the end of the
day, we could stop this in its tracks.

Just stop taking it. Everyone!


11 posted on 03/09/2023 6:45:33 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for? which it stands.)
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To: McGruff

That was a big screw you moment from our southern neighbor. May I propose something to get their attention : how about a 100 percent tax on any money sent to folks down in that area from any U.S. location. Any and all financial aid being sent to Mexico is to be stopped immediately. No travel to/from Mexico. Until the Mexican government starts to effectively help to prevent these drugs from flowing into our country.
We know that none of this will occur with our current administration. The corruption in Mexico and our own government is bewildering and maddening.


12 posted on 03/09/2023 6:46:34 PM PST by sicandtired (No, I will not press 1 for english)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Well, the U.S. helped it a lot by encouraging illegal immigration, and sending abortion, and unconsentual tubal ligations, and other leftism there.


13 posted on 03/09/2023 6:53:28 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: McGruff
His statement came during a visit to Mexico by Liz Sherwood-Randall, the White House homeland security adviser, to discuss the fentanyl crisis.

How many foreign leaders have clowned US envoys to their face during the Biden administration?

Think the Mexican president has the cojones to talk as tough to the cartels when they give him the old plata o plomo talk?

Yes, the foreign leaders wouldn't talk like this to Trump, but they wouldn't talk like this to Obama either. They know this administration is leaderless, rudderless, and there's no value in making nice.

14 posted on 03/09/2023 6:58:53 PM PST by jz638
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“The Mexican government has acknowledged in the past that fentanyl is produced at labs in Mexico using precursor chemicals imported from China. Fentanyl has been blamed for about 70,000 opioid deaths per year in the United States.”

I believe, as a first step, the US Military should take over the control of the corrupt Mexican Ports, where the Fentanyl precursors come in from China.


15 posted on 03/09/2023 7:00:32 PM PST by Texan4Life
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The only way to defeat the drug contagion is to separate the user from the supplier. Seal the border. Finish the wall and order he military to keep all invaders OUT!!!


16 posted on 03/09/2023 7:01:02 PM PST by elpadre (nd )
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To: Secret Agent Man

McGruff>>>

My proposed phase 1 plan.

200 mile dmz from our border into mexico. Given one week to leave the area. After one week we send planes and drones for live fire training and eliminate any people found there with the exception of any obviously put out there bythe cartel attemtping to have us execute them for them.

And we totally clean out those 200 miles. Any moving vehicles, any people, are targets until they’re destroyed. And it stays like this for 10 years.

After 10 years we re-assess. But by then it will be a normal testing and training area so it will probably stay.


I disagree. The US needs a -—Permanent-— 10 mile buffer zone, on the Mexican side of the Rio Grande.

Total Border Control is answer. That’s more easily accomplished when there’s not a river for people to cross.


17 posted on 03/09/2023 7:05:01 PM PST by Texan4Life
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To: McGruff

18 posted on 03/09/2023 7:08:55 PM PST by Theoria
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OK...he wants to play that way.

Immediately seal the border...and I mean seal it tight.

Begin round up of all illegal aliens and dump them in Mexico. They become his problem to send back to their native country.

All manufacturing facilities are moved back to the US and NAFTA and other trade agreements are ripped up.

We also reserve the right to seize any off shore oil wells and such as repayment for all of the money illegals have transferred to Mexico and other places.

19 posted on 03/09/2023 7:15:20 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: McGruff

If we send our military over an international border, Putin will be quite amused. But I suppose it’s different when we do it.

Also, however we may feel about Mexico, they are considered a US ally. It’s not common to invade your allies.

Building the wall would make a lot of sense. But US politicians clearly want to stop the drugs but not stop the people. Which just shows that US politicians are not serious about stopping the drugs.


20 posted on 03/09/2023 7:17:01 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it's the other way”)
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