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Germany, Italy Signal They Could Block EU Combustion-Engine Ban
Wsj ^ | 1 March 2023 | William Boston

Posted on 03/02/2023 6:08:26 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT

Berlin said it would oppose the plan unless Brussels agrees to allow so-called synthetic fuels that can burn like gasoline and diesel but spew fewer climate-damaging emissions alongside fully electric vehicles.

Italy’s Environment Ministry said that environmental targets should be pursued in a way that avoids harming jobs and production and that electric vehicles shouldn’t be seen as the only route to zero emissions.

Meanwhile, Carlos Tavares, chief executive of Stellantis NV, whose brands include Fiat, Peugeot, Jeep and Chrysler, warned on an earnings call with reporters last month that the industry may be getting ahead of its customers.

“I don’t know if people will adapt to a new lifestyle as fast as the car companies have adapted to a new technology,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Germany; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chat; climatechange; climatechangehoax; envirowackos; eussr; ev; fourthreich; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; italy; layoffs; newsforumabuse; sidebarabuse
They fired VW CEO Diess when tried to match Tesla on labor.

And this: "Tesla vows to halve EV production costs, Musk keeps affordable car plan under wraps" https://t.ly/iHGKt

OH, the VW Supervisory Board, about half are from the union.

1 posted on 03/02/2023 6:08:26 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Zer0 Emissions [of CO2] = Death.


2 posted on 03/02/2023 6:15:22 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Just wait until the Italians have to make pasta with cricket flour!!!


3 posted on 03/02/2023 6:16:49 PM PST by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell..)
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To: Paladin2

P.M.Meloni rocks! For a far right wing extremist that is.


4 posted on 03/02/2023 6:17:01 PM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“Germany, Italy Signal They Could Block EU Combustion-Engine Ban”

Sounds good in principle, but since we BLEW UP THEIR PIPELINE, we can simply tell them to ‘go find your LNG elsewhere’, and they’ll get in line...they ALWAYS do.


5 posted on 03/02/2023 6:18:34 PM PST by BobL
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To: Chgogal

—”Just wait until the Italians have to make pasta with cricket flour!!!”

You can be the first to tell them, but pls give me about a week to escape.

They will not take it well.


6 posted on 03/02/2023 6:22:38 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: Chgogal

Where the police are British,
The cooks are Italian,
The mechanics are German,
The lovers are French and
It’s all organized by the Swiss.


7 posted on 03/02/2023 6:23:41 PM PST by posterchild
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Trouble in Utopia? Perhaps Germany does not wish to become the 2030 version of New Congo


8 posted on 03/02/2023 6:28:45 PM PST by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I’ve driven almost 4,000 miles around Europe in the last 5 months, 1,300 miles in a Tesla Model 3. Electric cars won’t work for MOST Europeans.

I live in Texas. I could live with an electric car easier than 90% of Europeans I met. No place to park it, no place to charge it, Latitudes North of Maine (= Cold and Dark for 6 montths) and My electricity rates are 1/5th theirs.

The Numbers just don’t add up and the people MAKING cars in Europe are the people most against Electric cars, because they see it doesn’t make sense. Hybrids, sure. All electric... no sense.


9 posted on 03/02/2023 6:39:13 PM PST by UNGN
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...warned on an earnings call with reporters last month that the industry may be getting ahead of its customers slitting its own throat.
10 posted on 03/02/2023 6:41:57 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (There is lots of money and power in Green Communism and we all know where Communism ends.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

But I always wanted a battery Ferrari or Porsche like the little kiddie cars!


11 posted on 03/02/2023 6:51:41 PM PST by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The combustion engine is the best invention ever and it will last another 100 years or until they find am EV vehicle that is cheaper than a combustion engine.

12 posted on 03/02/2023 7:08:38 PM PST by TheConservativeTejano (The Business of America is Business)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The ICE AXIS.

I like it.


13 posted on 03/02/2023 7:16:01 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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"OH, the VW Supervisory Board, about half are from the union."

I used to work for SAP AG for 15 years. Every time SAP tried to kill its craptastic Business Warehouse software (BW) the works council in Germany would bring it back like a damned vampire zombie.

14 posted on 03/02/2023 7:28:00 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (Biden will mess up the Ukraine worse than Afghanistan.)
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To: lightman

—”The ICE AXIS.

I like it.”

Yes, at first, but recall that messy tale of Trotsky and the ice axe.


15 posted on 03/02/2023 7:37:54 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

This time it’s a good “axis”.


16 posted on 03/03/2023 12:11:12 AM PST by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum )
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Fermentation emits CO2. Try banning beer and see what happens.


17 posted on 03/03/2023 4:07:19 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

—” Every time SAP tried to kill its craptastic Business Warehouse software (BW) the works council in Germany would bring it back like a damned vampire zombie.”

SAP!
OHMY!

“Like a damned vampire zombie”, so I have heard.

At the megacorp I worked for, almost everything was ordered with SAP.

A young lady alone in a small office did it all... until one day they told her goodbye???????

A senior engineer was known to have a slight understanding of the system and would occasionally push the correct buttons to get stuff, but told any and all it was not his job and hated it.
He and I retired at the same time and I have heard that a few trainees have come and left the SAP position.

The young lady quickly found another SAP job with BETTER pay.


18 posted on 03/03/2023 12:22:01 PM PST by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

We have been putting data into SAP since 2004, and we still can’t get most of the data out.

Sure, the accountants get the qty shipped so we can get paid, but ALL of the other stuff is all still in their somewhere.

When we train someone to get the data out, they find a new job somewhere else before they right their first report.

SAP is right in the middle of car culture Bavaria where the ICE engine was invented. The EU will pry ICE cars out of their cold, dead hands.


19 posted on 03/03/2023 12:39:25 PM PST by UNGN
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