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East Palestine Fire Chief Silent When Environmental Protection Agency Claims He Ordered the Controlled Burn
The Ohio Star ^

Posted on 02/21/2023 9:28:10 AM PST by Tench_Coxe

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Bannon's show had a guest who was casting doubt on this story.

Anymore, it seems like people have to have this stuff recorded, sort of like certain personages having their own people recording interviews with the mockingbird media, knowing that the mockingbirds will leave inconvenient parts on the cutting room floor.

1 posted on 02/21/2023 9:28:10 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Tench_Coxe

At some point (maybe not this incident) I do expect an official to be on TV saying, “I did what I was told to do because the FBI told me that my children would die slow horrible deaths if I didn’t. But if I did do as I was told to do, I would never have to file income taxes again.”


2 posted on 02/21/2023 9:35:19 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it's the other way”)
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To: Tench_Coxe

An early report that I read said that DeWine approved the burn.


3 posted on 02/21/2023 9:35:37 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: Tench_Coxe

Considering the chemical involved, they did exactly what they were supposed to do.


4 posted on 02/21/2023 9:42:06 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Tench_Coxe

The real burn orderers need to be precisely identified all the way up the chain.


5 posted on 02/21/2023 9:43:07 AM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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“EPA did not order the controlled burn. The local fire chief was the incident commander who made the decision in consultation with Norfolk Southern, local law enforcement, and response officials from Ohio,” the EPA spokesperson told The Star.

Sounds like semantics. The Feds (including the EPA) and Norfolk Southern ‘experts’ told the local fire chief to approve the burn, and the local chief went with the ‘experts’ (always a mistake to believe/agree with the Feds). And now the Fed weasels are dumping the blame on the local guy.
The Federal Government: never take the blame when something goes bad, but always take credit when something goes right.

6 posted on 02/21/2023 9:46:03 AM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Hopefully you forgot the sarcasm tag. Burning chlorine or anything with chlorine in its molecule, creates dioxins. The most toxic cancer causing compounds known.


7 posted on 02/21/2023 10:04:02 AM PST by Reagan80
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To: Tench_Coxe

A local fire chief in a small rural town has neither knowledge or the experience to handle a train derailment involving hazardous materials. He should never been given the responsibility to manage this mess. He should have known better and told the RR that this was their mess, which it was.

The RR should have immediately taken over and called in their own responders.

Anyway, does anyone believe that the local fire chief of a department which couldn’t have been much more than a volunteer fire department, should have been left in charge/


8 posted on 02/21/2023 10:18:46 AM PST by Eva
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“Considering the chemical involved, they did exactly what they were supposed to do.”

Interesting comment. Please give us some detail.


9 posted on 02/21/2023 10:24:09 AM PST by cymbeline
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BLEVE =boiling liquid expanding vapor explosion would probably have occured if they didn’t burn it...maybe the lesser of two evils?


10 posted on 02/21/2023 10:31:42 AM PST by mythenjoseph (Positive outlook)
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To: El Cid

I saw Dewine on tv saying “they gave us two choices, worse option and even worse option. We had to pick between the two.”

But the options were offered by the railroad who wanted the tracks cleared so they could run trains. No EPA. They probably kept away just for that reason.


11 posted on 02/21/2023 10:33:44 AM PST by grame (May you know more of the love of God Almighty this day!)
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When was the last time explosive charges were used in this manner?

Is this a common event?


12 posted on 02/21/2023 10:37:13 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last messa)
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Burning chlorine or anything with chlorine in its molecule, creates dioxins.

False. It's how it is burned that matters. Burning PVC in combination with other materials that act like catalysts or in low oxygen conditions, like what exists in a landfill or in some incinerators may produce dioxins. Ihe fire was clearly in the open and emitting huge quantities of HCl gas. Animals getting sick and fish kills are clearly the result of HCl not dioxins.

13 posted on 02/21/2023 10:39:03 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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I am not a chemical engineer, but one who was on TV(I think the War Room) said that burning would have been correct IF it was a contained system at temperatures exceeding 1000 degrees F.
Not in an open pit where the molecules are released into the atmosphere.
14 posted on 02/21/2023 10:40:40 AM PST by woodbutcher1963 ( )
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Remember that Burning wood or gasoline creates dioxins. Check the ash in your fireplace. Just don’t panic at what you find.


15 posted on 02/21/2023 10:47:23 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Eva

That’s how it works with the national incident command system.

Every firefighter has to be on record as taken several of the courses.


16 posted on 02/21/2023 10:59:16 AM PST by meatloaf
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To: ClearCase_guy

Damn! You just reminded me that I need to do my taxes!


17 posted on 02/21/2023 11:00:17 AM PST by linedrive
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To: DUMBGRUNT
When was the last time explosive charges were used in this manner?

If a whale ever beaches itself in Ohio, I know just how the authorities will handle it.

18 posted on 02/21/2023 11:06:25 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (“You want it one way, but it's the other way”)
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19 posted on 02/21/2023 11:07:43 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Tench_Coxe

You know it is a confirmed catastrophe when the finger pointing begins.


20 posted on 02/21/2023 12:20:40 PM PST by beekay (Missing Trump yet? )
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