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Russia threatens nuclear war if it loses in Ukraine
New York Post ^ | January 19, 2023 | Evan Simko-Bednarski

Posted on 01/19/2023 1:24:45 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182

"A Kremlin insider warned Thursday that Russia could start a nuclear war if it lost its conventional war in Ukraine.

Dmitry Medvedev, deputy head of Russia’s security council and a close ally of President Vladimir Putin, made the threat in a post on the Telegram messaging app...."

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To: CrimsonTidegirl

A true American is concerned about many things at once, including national defense and international threats along with immigration.

Politics is how we could be protecting the border and arming Ukraine at the same time under a Republican president when Trump was in office, while now being passive while Russia rebuilds its empire is not going to have Biden switching the money over to protecting the border.

Do you people really believe that the reason we have open borders is because of our assisting Ukraine?


101 posted on 01/19/2023 4:51:51 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: higgmeister

Because the word “Soviet” was replaced by the word “Russia” that doesn’t mean the old Soviet modus operandi has fundamentally changed.

The ex-invaded Eastern European countries, including Ukraine, had been under Russian occupation for decades... they lived through hell under forced Russian/Soviet rule.

When the Soviet/Russian system momentarily collapsed, those previously occupied nations suddenly regained their freedom. But at that point they had no army to protect themselves in case Russia decided to occupy them AGAIN...

That’s why all previously occupied European eastern countries by Russia ran to NATO for urgent protection.
Without NATO, those eastern countries would already have been taken back by Russia. Proof : Ukraine wasn’t part of NATO - thus it was invaded by Russia!

The problem with the Soviet-Union or Russia is that since WWII they have always had a policy to colonize and expand into any country close to their borders. It continues today.

NATO is just trying to hinder further post WWII traditional Russian expansion. It’s the whole point of NATO. It’s a defensive organization.

Also :

What is often forgotten is that it is the CSTO that is helping Russias expansion policies. CSTO = Collective Security Treaty Organization. That is Russia’s own NATO equivalent. CSTO operates as an offensive organization.

So yes, it’s not only Russia attacking Ukraine right now, but the ENTIRE CSTO organization that is helping making this possible.

CSTO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_Security_Treaty_Organization


102 posted on 01/19/2023 4:59:10 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

Their Dear Leader is a KGB guy. That takes some chutzpah to act like everything’s not that same crap.


103 posted on 01/19/2023 4:59:58 PM PST by Portnoy001
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To: higgmeister
We caused this. You opinion means nothing. The facts speak for themselves and what you feel is your perception of reality does not fit the facts.

Obviously. John McCain caused 800 years of Russian aggression against its neighbors. /sarcasm

You are correct that, but for the United States, the current war would not be happening. Because the Russians would already have murdered, raped and looted their way across the lands of the Little Russians, and, given that for each conquest Russia makes, its finds not peace of mind, but a new neighbor, and a new opportunity for a “simple border struggle”, the lands of the Poles, the Lithuanians, the Estonians, the Finns, the Latvians, the Romanians, the Germans, the Swedes, the Hungarians, the Czechs, the Slovaks, the Slovenes, and all the Balkan peoples. Although I suspect the Serbs, and possibly the Bulgarians, would have joined in voluntarily.

But that fact neither excuses Russia's actions, nor condemns ours.

104 posted on 01/19/2023 5:10:48 PM PST by Pilsner
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To: Anti-Bubba182
"A Kremlin insider warned Thursday that Russia could start a nuclear war if it lost its conventional war in Ukraine.

With whom?

105 posted on 01/19/2023 5:20:12 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MeganC

Mr. InBetween.

It’s a good show.


106 posted on 01/19/2023 5:23:49 PM PST by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
"Anonymous Kremlin insider warned Thursday that Russia could start a nuclear war if it lost its conventional war in Ukraine." Picture of unknown insider.

Girl in a jacket
107 posted on 01/19/2023 5:24:28 PM PST by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Hamilton)
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To: EEGator

“Only faggots use LARP as a term.”

And you didn’t just use it?


108 posted on 01/19/2023 5:25:23 PM PST by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Chunga85

“The US faced no existential threat.”

But much of an American generation did.

https://www.history.navy.mil/about-us/leadership/director/directors-corner/h-grams/h-gram-057/h-057-1.html#:~:text=The%20intent%20of%20Operation%20Downfall,troops%2C%20according%20to%20the%20plan.

Millions would have died if the U.S. invaded Japan. The nuclear weapons used actually saved lives. I’m not saying that makes it right that they were used. It’s just a fact that their use saved millions of lives.


109 posted on 01/19/2023 5:29:44 PM PST by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: ansel12
Reagan was talking about Russia, not the nations it had enslaved which are now mostly allies with us in NATO.

President Reagan said, "Mister Secretary Gorbachev tear down this wall."   He was the General Secretary of the Communist party and that doesn't exist anymore.   To say that the rest of the Soviet Republics had nothing to do with the Soviet Union is rewriting history.   They had all had united themselves under Communism.   There are some Russians who wish they were still Communist but they aren't.

110 posted on 01/19/2023 5:33:14 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: higgmeister

“themselves under Communism. “

Nice way to put ‘subjugated into an empire’


111 posted on 01/19/2023 5:34:42 PM PST by Portnoy001
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To: higgmeister

No, Reagan knew that Russia was the empire master of slave states and that was proven once Russia’s grip loosened and they all started escaping as fast as they could, they started seeking NATO membership and protection from the evil empire.

Those nations are not evil in themselves, but Russia is.


112 posted on 01/19/2023 5:48:39 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Portnoy001

Agreed.


113 posted on 01/19/2023 5:54:47 PM PST by USA-FRANCE
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To: kabar

“No way Russia gives up Crimea. It would be like ceding Moscow.”

Crimea is actually a peninsula of Ukraine. It has no physical or geologic connection to Russia at all. The closest point between Russia and Crimea is at the Strait of Kerch, separating the Black Sea from the Sea of Azov on a north-west axis; which also separates Ukraine from Russia on an east-west axis. Crimea is west of the Strait, in Ukraine.


114 posted on 01/19/2023 5:55:33 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Chunga85

Ever heard of Pearl Harbor, genius?


115 posted on 01/19/2023 5:57:27 PM PST by exinnj
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To: exinnj

It’s clear that Russia can do no wrong to these people and the USA can do no right. Forever.

This is a very strange ‘conservative’ site with so many that seem to flat out hate everything about the USA.


116 posted on 01/19/2023 5:59:10 PM PST by Portnoy001
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To: Portnoy001

Not your father’s FR, that’s for sure...


117 posted on 01/19/2023 6:01:49 PM PST by nascarnation (Let's go Brandon!)
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To: kabar

Re: My post #114: I meant to say north-SOUTH axis, not north-WEST axis.


118 posted on 01/19/2023 6:12:22 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: higgmeister

Russians fighting for their existence, higgmeister-troll? That ended in 1945, if you happen to know. Who in his right mind wants to fight Russia, with its unlimited resources and its frightening nuclear potential? Their inferiority complex comes from the deep knowledge of themselves, of who they actually are: slaves ruled by a bunch of thugs. Only one nation has the nerve to blackmail whole world by the nuclear Holocaust using “NATO expansion” pretext. They cowardly “guaranteed” Ukraine security in the nineties and grabbed Ukraine’s nukes, the very same nukes they threaten to use now against the world. So, cry me a river on Russia’s insecurity, tovarisch…


119 posted on 01/19/2023 6:30:30 PM PST by exinnj
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To: CrimsonTidegirl

Unlike you simple minded Russians other people can contemplate and act on multiple issues in a multipolar world.

Sorry you’re not intelligent enough or empathetic enough to recognize something most people take for granted.


120 posted on 01/19/2023 6:38:06 PM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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