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Putin Says West Aiming to ‘Tear Apart’ Russia
AFP via The Moscow Times ^

Posted on 12/25/2022 7:34:11 AM PST by Salohcin

Russian President Vladimir Putin blasted the West for trying to "tear apart" Russia, in extracts from an interview to be aired on national television later Sunday.

"At the core of it all is the policy of our geopolitical opponents aiming to tear apart Russia, historical Russia," Putin said.

"They have always tried to 'divide and conquer'... Our goal is something else -- to unite the Russian people," he said.

Putin has used the concept of "historical Russia" to argue that Ukrainians and Russians are one people -- undermining Kyiv's sovereignty and justifying his 10-month offensive in Ukraine.

"We are acting in the right direction, we are protecting our national interests, the interests of our citizens, of our people," Putin said.

The president repeated claims that Moscow was "ready to negotiate with all participants in this process (to find) an acceptable solution" to the conflict.

In his first trip outside Ukraine since the offensive began in February, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky earned firm pledges of support from US President Joe Biden, including the Pentagon's most advanced air defense system.

"Of course, we will destroy it, 100 percent!" Putin said, referring to the Patriot missile battery promised to Zelensky.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: alwaysthevictim; idiotic; insane; natohegemony; putin; russia; russianempire; tsarmussolini; ukraine; war
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To: Salohcin
It has happened many times over already. There are always a percentage that are more than willing to engage in acts of violence, in Ukraine's case it was the neo-Nazis that you all discount as even existing. In fact, I think they were already involved in the raising of emotions in others present.

How many did it take to instigate violence at the J6 rally? People get caught up in something that many did not want, and whose only real involvement was perhaps trespassing, just like they saw happen when the Senate was confirming Kavanaugh. However, the J6 were labeled as insurrectionists, even though no guns were found, and the vast majority committed no acts of violence after entering the Capitol Building. Why were none of those whose involvement was on a major scale, of inciting violence, never even arrested. Ray Epps, ever heard of him? Those located on the tower encouraging people to go inside the Capitol, and others. You're a naive little person, but you think you have all the answers.

You're the delusional person here. That's what you become when you ignore critical thinking and base all of your opinions solely upon your emotional responses.

You keep ignoring what you are seeing. Lord help us all, for the ignorance in this nation is unbelievably rampant.

Now what nation are you from? Why are you afraid to answer that simple question? It reveals nothing personal about you. But it may shed some light on your true motivations in your support for this conflict. Is that what you are afraid of?

121 posted on 12/25/2022 12:13:53 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: BobL

“Don’t get me wrong, I understand that ANY supporters of Ukraine have to support Ethnic Cleansing of the Russian-speakers living there.”

Nonsense. Supporting Ukraine’s defense against an existential threat from a bigger and stronger neighbor can be a stand-alone position. Moreover, there is no ethnic cleansing of Russian-speakers in Ukraine. If there were, Zelensky himself would have been the prime target, because he is a Russian-speaker, and grew up speaking Russian.

“But the problem is that Hungarians and Romanian speakers also live there and are being treated the same way - either CONFORM to our ‘purified’ culture, or leave your homeland that has been yours for hundreds of years.”

You just make sh!t up. No one is being forced to leave their homeland. And what is this “purified” culture of which you speak? If anyone is “purifying” a culture, it is Putin, with his insistence on Russian nativism.

“Face it...like nearly 100 years ago, your the Master Race crap will again be defeated, and again it will be Russia doing so.”

What “Master Race crap” am I advocating? You made the claim, so the burden of proof is on you to prove your claim. Put up, or shut up.


122 posted on 12/25/2022 12:15:10 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: BobL

The Puppet Masters of Ukraine - https://polden.substack.com/p/the-puppet-master-of-ukraine

Be sure to check out Damon Wilson’s full bio on wikipedia. He’s a full on NATO warmonger who lives in DC with his husband. One recent accomplishment was making sure a select group of people made it out of Afghanistan, which did not include those 13 young dead soldiers of course.

Also check out the members of the IRI and NDI. All our favorite war monger congress critters.

Links to all of the above are in the article.


123 posted on 12/25/2022 12:17:45 PM PST by Pollard ( >>> The Great Reset is already underway! <<<)
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To: ought-six

“What “Master Race crap” am I advocating? You made the claim, so the burden of proof is on you to prove your claim. Put up, or shut up.”

Read up on the Azovs, they were giving black Americans crap for coming into Ukraine to try to help them, at the start of the war. These are the PURE RACISTS that YOU support. Deal with it, I’m sick of this ‘Master Race’ crap you guys support.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/how-we-rise/2022/03/03/the-russian-invasion-of-ukraine-shows-racism-has-no-boundaries/


124 posted on 12/25/2022 12:19:35 PM PST by BobL
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To: Salohcin

Henry Kissinger, insider-if-all-insiders, told us two weeks ago the Deep State plan was to surround and dismember Russia.

Henry Kissinger Putin Puffer??


125 posted on 12/25/2022 12:42:43 PM PST by PGR88
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To: BobL

You are such a fraud.

Your link says NOTHING about Azov; it merely states that UKRAINIAN women and children were given priority for evacuation over non-Ukrainians, especially men.

Your source, the Brookings Institute, is a far left “think tank” that introduces race into pretty much everything it addresses (note: when a publication capitalizes the letter “b” in “black” it has a racial agenda).


126 posted on 12/25/2022 12:42:45 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

“note: when a publication capitalizes the letter “b” in “black” it has a racial agenda”

All races should be treated with RESPECT, but I’m not surprised that you are one of those race-haters and cannot handle blacks being treated with minimal RESPECT. No surprise.


127 posted on 12/25/2022 12:45:25 PM PST by BobL
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To: Robert DeLong

Who am I? I’m an American of Italian heritage. I have no connections with Ukraine. I am also, however, a student of history and I see clear parallels between the rise of Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany in the 1930s with the rise of neo-Nazi inspired Eurasianism in today’s Russia under Putin.


128 posted on 12/25/2022 1:22:00 PM PST by Salohcin
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Very sorry, but the division of Germany after 1945 had not been planned - except for the “former East Germany”, i.e. the territories given to Poland and the USSR. At first, all four Powers wanted to treat Germany, or what was left of her, as a single unit.

But in fact, it turned out that there were too many disagreements between the occupying Powers (or rather, between the USSR on one side and the three Western Powers on the other) about the fate of a future Germany (communist or not?).

Thus, two states evolved.

N.B: A happy Christmas to everybody.


129 posted on 12/25/2022 1:36:43 PM PST by Menes
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To: Salohcin

Mssr. Putin, and his ‘midnight confessions’ of re-unifying Soviet territory and buffer lands, will fail.

All the ‘Stans are independent. Poland, what was Czechslovakia, Albania, Romania, Hungary, Bulgaria, not to mention East Germany.


130 posted on 12/25/2022 1:42:46 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: packagingguy
So what? People write all sorts of crap all the time. Think tanks speculate about various scenarios all the time. That's not a justification to go to war just because someone, somewhere is taking about what might happen in the future. Good God man, the Soviets said worse stuff about us all the time. "We will bury you" and all the other typical stuff About the destruction of capitalism, etc.. But shooting off your mouth doesn't justify war.

Russia has thousands of nuclear weapons. Nobody was emgoing to invade Russia and dismantle it by force, and the Russians knew that.

131 posted on 12/25/2022 2:25:54 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: BobL

“All races should be treated with RESPECT, but I’m not surprised that you are one of those race-haters and cannot handle blacks being treated with minimal RESPECT. No surprise.”

You must be a racist: You didn’t capitalize the “b” in “blacks.”

As is your usual bent, you jump to conclusions. Because I don’t capitalize the “b” in “blacks,” you assume I am a racist. Well, I don’t capitalize the “w” in “white,” either; or the “b” in “brown.”

As for respect, that is a distinction that is EARNED. Dignity, on the other hand, is inherent.

Thus, while someone is deserving of dignity, he or she is not entitled to my respect until they have earned it.

Get it?


132 posted on 12/25/2022 2:33:00 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids
They are not - they are a gangster state (as to a lesser extent is Ukraine) with low birth rates, low church attendance (lower than the US) and one of the highest rates of abortion on the world.

If you hate the “new world order” work to change the culture in our own backyard and don’t drink the propaganda of the Russians (who are not a thriving or moral society by any means).

133 posted on 12/25/2022 2:51:07 PM PST by Clemenza
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To: Nextrush

Stalin and Hitler stood up to FDR so I guess you would of supported them a well.


134 posted on 12/25/2022 2:52:41 PM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: ought-six

There are ways to get help, for people who see race in EVERYTHING, even the capitalization of words. I suggest that you seek that help.


135 posted on 12/25/2022 3:00:10 PM PST by BobL
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To: Salohcin
But you totally ignore the same in Ukraine. Furthermore, you ignore the fascism openly operating within the U.S, and elsewhere, right now.

You must be a poor student, who only sees these things where they want you to, while distracting you from seeing it right under your own nose.

In addition, you foolishly buy the propaganda being spoon fed to you, even after having seen numerous examples of them outright lying to you for quite a while now. That propaganda precludes you from examining all the evidence that shows you that you are assisting in the destruction of our nation.

Can you deny that all of the so-called western societies leaderships are becoming increasingly tyrannical with the powers their leaders usurp and deny their citizens even the most basic of human rights?

If you can, then my suspicions about you being a poor student are confirmed. By saving our nation, you have the real possibility to one day be able to provide Ukraine with that freedom they desire & deserve. But what you are doing by continued support of this conflict, is to only make that possibility quite unlikely. As I said, once this nation falls, the whole world falls.

Quit being the useful idiot. Stop and realize what is going on. Let's see what can be accomplished by stopping the war and working in earnest to fashion a peace agreement. Right now evil has a firm grip upon the world, and we must stand together to defeat that evil. That evil is global, within us and beyond, and its roots are the elites of the world.

There is more going on than Russia invading Ukraine, and Ukraine played a big role in making this conflict materialize in the first place.

By signalling out the Russian Ukrainians as targets, much like the Nazis did to the Jews & others. Like the Jews these people have lived in harmony together for decades upon decades. They intermarry etc.

They made it illegal for Russian language to be taught in schools. They made it illegal to speak Russian in the public square. Then they made it illegal to speak it at work. They legitimatized the neo-Nazis by creating the Azov regiment. They let them run free to terrorize the Russian Ukrainian citizens, for the last 8 years. Guessed you missed that reality also. Perhaps you need some honest textbooks for your studies.

136 posted on 12/25/2022 3:25:20 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: BobL

“There are ways to get help, for people who see race in EVERYTHING, even the capitalization of words. I suggest that you seek that help.”

You are clueless, son. The capitalization of the first letter of the descriptive started with racists who sought to denigrate and demean those who were “the others.” Thus, what began as an attempt to elevate one’s own tribe on the one hand and minimize and subtract those who were not so situated, turned out to brand the former as the racists they were. The cheap gilding of the capitalization backfired.

No capitalization is necessary for such adjectives; the word itself is sufficient, and any embellishment is pretentious, and shoddy, and serves only to degrade that which it had sought to elevate.

But, dim of intellect as you are, you fail to see that.


137 posted on 12/25/2022 3:45:57 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Agree, it is not going to happen.

But it’s not wise to write about breaking up other nations or deciding who should or should not be their leader.

Problem for Ukraine is the same as what a fellow from Bosnia told me. If you’re a small country in Europe you just get pushed around. The Turks, Germans, Russians, British, Americans, etc. just use you and dragoon you into their inter-tribal squabbles.


138 posted on 12/25/2022 5:42:44 PM PST by packagingguy
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To: Salohcin

Yep...


139 posted on 12/25/2022 6:25:14 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the U S of A & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands)
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To: packagingguy
it’s not wise to write about breaking up other nations or deciding who should or should not be their leader.

As official government policy, sure. But there is no possible way to prevent any number of private actors from writing about whatever they wish.

140 posted on 12/25/2022 7:54:52 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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