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Detransitioner: ‘I’m suing the doctors who removed my healthy breasts’
New York Post ^ | December 3, 2022 | Rikki Schlott

Posted on 12/05/2022 8:53:17 AM PST by karpov

“Sometimes in the shower, I realize they’re gone. I just have these scars.”

Camille Kiefel, 32, had her healthy breasts removed in 2020 to align with her nonbinary gender identity. She says her doctors approved the surgery after two Zoom meetings, breezing past a whole host of mental health issues.

Now that Camille is in a better place mentally, she realizes her surgery was a mistake. So, two and a half years later, she’s suing her social worker, therapist, and the gender clinics they work for — Brave Space Oregon and Quest Center for Integrative Health — seeking up to $850,000 in damages.

As a child, Camille never gave her gender identity a thought. But when her best friend was raped by a relative in sixth grade, she said she became acutely aware of her femininity. Around that time her father also imparted well-meaning advice that backfired.

“My dad told me about how men talked about girls, because he wanted to protect me and to get me to dress more conservatively,” she told The Post. “But it made my anxiety worse. All that really screwed me up. I remember I was even afraid to be alone.”

From that point on, she began dressing more androgynously. “I didn’t want to highlight my curves. I had a lot of discomfort around my breasts and hips.”

But the idea that she might not actually be a woman didn’t occur to Camille until she enrolled at Portland State University, where she minored in gender studies and was introduced to alternative views about sex and gender.

By the time she reached her mid-20s, she embraced a nonbinary label and used she/they pronouns. All the while, she was struggling with a slew of mental-health issues, including anxiety disorder, social anxiety, PTSD, major depressive disorder and ADHD.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: genitalmutilation; malpractice; topsurgery; transgender
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To: The Great RJ

I heard earlier today about a man who is suing a gynecological surgeon for refusing to perform a hysterectomy on him.


101 posted on 12/05/2022 12:42:05 PM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: brownsfan

She may have a hard time winning this case since she was an adult when this nonsense was going on.


102 posted on 12/05/2022 1:00:07 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: JudgemAll

I have to not care when some friends vote Dem. I’’m a woman too. My male friends are more logical and Republican. Women often suffer from that incurable disease, Lackalogic. especially women with advanced degrees.


103 posted on 12/05/2022 1:12:59 PM PST by Veto! (FJB sucks rocks)
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To: karpov

She should be suing Oregon State for teaching such vile crap.


104 posted on 12/05/2022 1:13:46 PM PST by Baldwin77 (Super, Duper, Ultra Maga, subject of the Ultra Maga King Donald)
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To: NeverCheney

Well, what if?

Apparently, its all ok! They had the opportunity to say no and did not. Why should they be sued now?
I recall a number of years ago, some deaf parents wanted a deaf child and some medico was right there to help...because, well...they WANTED it.

We are collectively insane.


105 posted on 12/05/2022 2:10:04 PM PST by Adder (ALL Democrats are the enemy. NO QUARTER!!)
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To: Bayan

Very much agree!

Yet you have hospitals BRAGGING how they offer child mutilation services...


106 posted on 12/05/2022 2:11:34 PM PST by Adder (ALL Democrats are the enemy. NO QUARTER!!)
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To: karpov

Hey, once she met Russian surgeon Tora Titov, there is no going back.


107 posted on 12/05/2022 2:23:29 PM PST by Candor7
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To: CatOwner

She was mentally ill and predatory monsters preyed on her in the midst of her mental illness for their own benefit. So sue ‘em.

BTW, ALL trans people are by definition, mentally ill.


108 posted on 12/05/2022 2:23:58 PM PST by JimSp
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To: karpov

Statute of limitations. The fact that she was an adult and the surgery was consensual, and she hadn’t been adjudicated insane, and wasn’t acting insane, other than wanting a boob-out-o-me and an ad-a-dic-to-me. I don’t see this lawsuit going anywhere.


109 posted on 12/05/2022 3:06:32 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (Free country? Good morning, Rip. )
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To: NeverCheney

That’s sort of my viewpoint. These people are mentally ill, and that needs to be taken into account. Mentally ill people are not competent to make decisions about having their bodies mutilated.


110 posted on 12/05/2022 3:06:40 PM PST by FreedomForce
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To: karpov
How's that CHOICE thing working out for you now?

I guess you can CHOOSE to get some nice, firm silicon ones, from a different doctor.

111 posted on 12/05/2022 3:10:06 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Fai Mao

They may spend quite a bit longer in a place that they will really not like very much.


112 posted on 12/05/2022 3:11:14 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Spok
...she may be able to convince a jury that a reasonable doctor should or could have known that she was too mentally ill to understand the quality or nature of what she was consenting to.

Go ahead! I was able to convince over 81 million people to vote for me.

113 posted on 12/05/2022 3:16:24 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tired of Taxes; A Navy Vet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fn36l_z3WY


114 posted on 12/05/2022 3:18:50 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Adder
While I decry the ethics of these surgeries in general, she knew what she was doing. Suing the folks who gave her what she asked for is not going to go well, imho.

Morally, you may be correct. However, many medical malpractice claims are based upon the "lack of informed consent." Thus, the health care workers may be liable if they encouraged this person to have mutilation surgery without first addressing the underlying mental health issues. In other words, the person would not have consented to the surgery if she had been told that desire to cut off her breasts and pretend to be a male may be the result of a mental health issue that can be treated without irreversible mutilation surgery.

115 posted on 12/05/2022 3:20:17 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Jeff Chandler

“Almost all lawyers are extremely far left...”

When you claim “almost all” do you mean 99%, 90%, 50.1%? I ask, because I am a conservative lawyer and I know many other conservative lawyers. In fact, the Federalist Society is comprised of ~70,000 conservative lawyers and not all conservative lawyers are members of the federalist Society.


116 posted on 12/05/2022 3:28:54 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: thegagline

She was 30 something years old, fully an adult. I have no sympathies for her.


117 posted on 12/05/2022 3:30:35 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ("None of the people I know who didn't take take the Jab regrets their decision" ZERO)
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To: Elsie

Haha. I remember that song. :-)


118 posted on 12/05/2022 3:36:23 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: karpov
But the idea that she might not actually be a woman didn’t occur to Camille until she enrolled at Portland State University, where she minored in gender studies and was introduced to alternative views about sex and gender.

She ought to sue the University and her instructors too. They had a part in it as well.

119 posted on 12/05/2022 4:19:55 PM PST by Gritty (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution. - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Labyrinthos

Good point.


120 posted on 12/05/2022 4:40:42 PM PST by Adder (ALL Democrats are the enemy. NO QUARTER!!)
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