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WW3 fears as Putin prepares to go all in on Ukraine: Russia paves the way for conscription and scrambles to annex Ukrainian territories, warning the West 'all forces' will be used to defend them
Daily Mail ^ | 9/20/2022 | Chris Pleasance

Posted on 09/20/2022 9:45:32 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

Vladimir Putin appeared poised to go all-in on his war in Ukraine today, sparking fears of an escalation in fighting that could drag in NATO and spark World War Three.

In a day of rapid-fire developments, Kremlin stooges in Ukraine's Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions simultaneously announced referendums on becoming part of Russia between September 23 and 27, with the sham votes expected to easily pass.

Dmitry Medvedev, a staunch Putin ally, then vowed 'all forces of self-defence' will be used to protect what he called 'Russian territory' - teeing up a new phase in the conflict involving weapons and tactics the Kremlin has so-far held in reserve.

Underlining that point, Moscow's rubber-stamp parliament passed new laws paving the war for Putin to end his 'special military operation' and officially declare a war, allowing him to mobilise Russia's massive population into the army.

It comes after Ukraine humiliatingly routed Putin's forces to the east of Kharkiv and recaptured a swathe of territory, with the despot's allies, propagandists and political hardliners calling for an escalation amid calls for the president to resign.

Putin was said to be preparing an address to the nation tonight, Russia's national broadcaster reported, without giving any further details.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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To: Petrosius

Nope. Donbas has been Russian speaking and ethnic Russian for decades.


141 posted on 09/20/2022 10:59:52 AM PDT by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: for-q-clinton; All
That is a temporary but serious issue. They were stupid shutting down nuke and coal plants just to outsource it to russia. But that’s teh green’s plan...ruin the west.

And Russia supported the Greens to keep Europe dependent on Russia.

142 posted on 09/20/2022 11:00:45 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: BobL
“Where was Russia in 1945?”

It was a piece of another country, kind of like North Carolina.

So what language did they speak, when they were a 'piece of another country'? Soviet language? Lol

143 posted on 09/20/2022 11:01:03 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: cranked

“You know, something we still yet to have...........”

There’s plenty of weapons systems that we don’t bother to develop. Usually because they aren’t actually going to make much of a difference when it comes to winning a war.

But if you need a weapon for domestic propaganda purposes to convince your population that your paper tiger military might actually stand a chance against the USA, then yeah, maybe hypersonic missiles might impress the rubes.


144 posted on 09/20/2022 11:01:45 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: cranked

“Facts are relative...”

Only to a liar.


145 posted on 09/20/2022 11:02:20 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Of course.


146 posted on 09/20/2022 11:02:57 AM PDT by cranked
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To: BobL

Belarus will be obligated to join if Russia formally declares war.
Personally I won’t be surprised to see Iran, Pakistan, and a few other SCO guys joining in. Ukraine is seen as the west they all hate..wonder if North Korea wants to play.

China has a very impressive list of allies.

WW3 would be horrific, I believe.


147 posted on 09/20/2022 11:03:47 AM PDT by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: cranked

Ukraine was supposed to be finished in a couple of weeks. The Russkies have lost a lot. Your piece looks like it was written from Russkie propaganda.


148 posted on 09/20/2022 11:04:54 AM PDT by kenmcg (t)
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To: kenmcg

That was according to Western/US/UK/EU/NATO propaganda-ridden media, not Putin nor the SMO. Try again.


149 posted on 09/20/2022 11:05:57 AM PDT by cranked
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To: tlozo

I’m through with you guys trolling this.


150 posted on 09/20/2022 11:06:05 AM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Latvia: 44 degrees)
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To: Boogieman
Russia: we have moved the border over here, so now Ukraine are the invaders!!!

Sounds about right. My guess is that the West will (and should) increase its support for Ukraine in response. I'm guessing that Russian mobilization isn't going to work out that well....

151 posted on 09/20/2022 11:07:17 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: MarMema

That’s a good point, Russia will have some friends if they’re forced to declare war in Ukraine - the question Americans have to ask is whether this Neocon dream scenario was really worth it.


152 posted on 09/20/2022 11:07:24 AM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Latvia: 44 degrees)
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To: MarMema
Nope. Donbas has been Russian speaking and ethnic Russian for decades.

Ireland was also many years under foreign rule. Whats clear is that the Russians are not welcome on Ukrainian soil.

153 posted on 09/20/2022 11:07:27 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: BobL

Then more of them will have to die.

I cannot imagine that the Russian people will go along with mobilization over Ukraine. The country is not being invaded. There is no existential threat (to use an overused word.)

The laws that were passed were Stalinist in their tenor.

I see Putin trying to hang on by his fingertips.

What is scarier is the real potential for an internal collapse in Russia.


154 posted on 09/20/2022 11:07:37 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: freeandfreezing

Donbas has been shelled and bombed for 8 years by the Ukrainian army, told they could not speak Russian in public, denied Russian tv and books, given no services...Crimea had no water until Russia went there.

Ukraine was a failed state, huge unemployment, pensions taken away. Beatings on the streets by Nazi thugs for fun.


155 posted on 09/20/2022 11:07:54 AM PDT by MarMema (No bugs for consumption)
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To: BobL

“Any other suggestions?”

Read the articles (there are a lot of them). Also, just google Putin’s July 12, 2021 article or “manifesto.” He makes it quite clear: Ukraine can only exist as a direct or indirect part of Russia.


156 posted on 09/20/2022 11:08:21 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: tlozo

A fact-denier. Figures.


157 posted on 09/20/2022 11:08:46 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ( We need to “build back better” on the bones and ashes of those forcing us to “Build Back Better.")
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To: BobL

“Trump voters prefer peace.“

Now we are getting somewhere.
Define “peace”.
Define peace in a world filled with aggressive wickedness .
Tells was Reagan right with his peace through strength model?

And do have the luxury like many nations do, to sit on the sidelines in the face of aggressive enemies like China?

Do we want to back a nuclear super power like Russia into a corner ?
I would say heck no.
They need a face saving way to back away from their reckless Ukrainian debacle.


158 posted on 09/20/2022 11:08:58 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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To: MarMema
told they could not speak Russian in public, denied Russian tv and books, given no services.

OMG, being forced to learn the language of the country you live in, what horror!

159 posted on 09/20/2022 11:09:49 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Define “peace”.

Peace is when you sit down, shut up, and do as you're told.
160 posted on 09/20/2022 11:11:21 AM PDT by Colinsky
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