WW3 fears as Putin prepares to go all in on Ukraine: Russia paves the way for conscription and scrambles to annex Ukrainian territories, warning the West 'all forces' will be used to defend them

Daily Mail ^ | 9/20/2022 | Chris Pleasance

[marcusmaximus]

Vladimir Putin appeared poised to go all-in on his war in Ukraine today, sparking fears of an escalation in fighting that could drag in NATO and spark World War Three.

In a day of rapid-fire developments, Kremlin stooges in Ukraine's Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions simultaneously announced referendums on becoming part of Russia between September 23 and 27, with the sham votes expected to easily pass.

Dmitry Medvedev, a staunch Putin ally, then vowed 'all forces of self-defence' will be used to protect what he called 'Russian territory' - teeing up a new phase in the conflict involving weapons and tactics the Kremlin has so-far held in reserve.

Underlining that point, Moscow's rubber-stamp parliament passed new laws paving the war for Putin to end his 'special military operation' and officially declare a war, allowing him to mobilise Russia's massive population into the army.

It comes after Ukraine humiliatingly routed Putin's forces to the east of Kharkiv and recaptured a swathe of territory, with the despot's allies, propagandists and political hardliners calling for an escalation amid calls for the president to resign.

Putin was said to be preparing an address to the nation tonight, Russia's national broadcaster reported, without giving any further details.

[dpetty121263]

Not going to project a picture of strength with Plugs Biden running the nation....won’t ever happen.

[lodi90]

Trump didn’t get played by anybody. He’s spoken extensively about how it’s in US interest to kick Russian corruption and influence out of Europe. His policies, unlike Brandon, backed that up, too.

It’s fine if you want to Make Russia Great Again. But put your cards on the table and stop with the nonsensical positions.

[marcusmaximus]

Did Putin poop himself before the TV address? He’s almost an hour late.

[cranked]

Here, enlighten yourself:

‘The Return of Industrial Warfare’
https://www.rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/return-industrial-warfare

[cranked]

*shrugs* Dunno mate.

[BobL]

Trump was PLAYED - he needed to kick the Neocons out of the State Department, he didn’t. Come to think of it, many here were saying the same during his 4 years.

Now the world pays the price of his inaction.

[Husker24]

Maybe someone said enough is enough.

[freeandfreezing]

That’s how the Russians are saving the local people, who they claim want to be a part of Russia and supposedly want Russia to protect them from the boogieman that the Russians have made up. Nothing wins the hearts and minds of villagers like raining incendiary shells on their homes and farms.

[StAnDeliver]

"Trump voters prefer peace."

President Trump has plainly said, Russia's war has generated a holocaust, many people are dying, and we're (the US) allowing this to happen, and it has to be stopped.

"We're watching a holocaust. We're watching something that I've never seen before. [Russia] is blowing up buildings, with children, with women, with professionals, with people, just people, they're blowing up indiscriminately. They're just shooting massive missiles and rockets into these buildings and everybody is dying." "The numbers are far worse than what you're seeing on television. I don't know if they [are] keeping them down. When you see buildings being blown up and then they say one person died? Give me a break. Many people are dying and we're allowing this to happen." "They have to stop it and they have to stop it now, but they don't respect the United States, and the United States is not doing anything about it. This is a holocaust, this is a horrible thing that's happening and you see it on television every night."

[for-q-clinton]

That is a temporary but serious issue. They were stupid shutting down nuke and coal plants just to outsource it to russia. But that’s teh green’s plan...ruin the west.

[marcusmaximus]

Patrushev has been warning Putin not to declare Mobilization. Says it will destabilize the mobilized regions in western Russia.

[BobL]

Trump DID NOT have any interest in toppling Putin, but the Neocons sure did and still do, regardless of what that means to the West at this point.

[ought-six]

“Link please.”

Read Putin’s “manifesto” of July, 2021 for starters. You’ll find it online.

Also, for your reading pleasure, there are scores of articles about Putin’s goals here:

https://imrussia.org/en/

[freeandfreezing]

Russia has a fully functioning industrial complex to pump whatever they need...

Is that why they have to import all the high end integrated circuits they use in their systems? And use Canon cameras in the drones? And get GPS modules from the USA and Europe?

[redgolum]

So Russia rules the world, and any rejection of her demands leads to world destruction.

OK. Let’s assume this is true (and I am sure no one on any side thinks it is).

Then the ONLY recourse is to remove Russia and the culture from the map like what was done to Imperial Japan.

This is a tar baby made by all sides. Ukraine does not want to be part of Russia, but there are large populations of Russians that were settled there in the 30’s. Also the borders are not the same as the traditional ones.

After the domination by Soviet Russia, a lot of the other states want to have some allies for when, not if, Moscow starts marching again. That drove the Baltic States, Finland, and Sweden to forge tight ties with NATO.

So Ukraine had a choice. Defend herself or die as a political entity. They chose to fight, and in typical Russian fashion of blaming the victims for the assault. Now that there is a counteroffensive, it is “WE WILL NUKE YOU IF YOU DON”T RESPECT OUR WISHES!”

In other words, you a man who has already beat up his ex wife threatening to burn down the town unless he gets her (or part of her) back. When she fights back with her neighbor’s gun, he threatens to kill everyone.

What do you think is going to happen to that man?

[telescope115]

This is lost on Biden. He hasn’t got a clue…
And we are worse off for it.

[StAnDeliver]

"Did Putin poop himself before the TV address? He’s almost an hour late."

He's having a Putsch Lite Beer, The Beer That Almost Satisfies Chemobrains : they take a sip and pour the rest down their shirt.

[bert]

Meanwhile, Russia withers on the vine. Estimates are 8 to 10 years to recover from the present economic devastation and that will worsen as the disastrous war fiasco goes on

[BobL]

Sorry, none of them quotes Putin as saying that Ukraine belongs to Russia.

Any other suggestions?

[E. Pluribus Unum]

They are not there “by invitation.” They perpetrated a coup in 2014 and have used it as their personal piggy bank ever since. Just ask “The Big Guy.” He bragged at a CFR meeting how he had a Ukrainian prosecutor fired for investigating “My Son Hunter.”