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Why Cal State struggles to graduate Black students — and what could be done
Cal Matters ^ | AUGUST 22, 2022 | MIKHAIL ZINSHTEYN, MICHAELLA HUCK AND JULIE WATTS

Posted on 08/22/2022 7:49:59 AM PDT by artichokegrower

The Cal State system graduates Black students at lower rates than other groups. Students, scholars and advocates say the reasons are myriad.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: education; race
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Carter found his niche when he joined Alpha Phi Alpha, a Black fraternity


Are there any white fraternities on any of the campuses?

Anyhow in California they got rid of high school exit exams and college entrance exams. Maybe a lot of young folks who are not qualified to go to college are finding themselves lost on a college campus.

1 posted on 08/22/2022 7:49:59 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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Blame everyone except the black students.


2 posted on 08/22/2022 7:50:46 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. )
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To: artichokegrower

Just hand out Degrees like High School Diplomas


3 posted on 08/22/2022 7:51:34 AM PDT by EC Washington
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"Carter found his niche …"

He dindu nuffins.

4 posted on 08/22/2022 7:53:07 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: artichokegrower

Offer degrees for ‘just showing up’.


5 posted on 08/22/2022 7:53:53 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: artichokegrower
The Cal State system graduates Black students at lower rates than other groups. Students, scholars and advocates say the reasons are myriad.

Do any of those reasons involve holding the student responsible for anything?

6 posted on 08/22/2022 7:54:10 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: artichokegrower

I’m do sick of seeing these articles. I no longer care.
Slavery should have been abolished at the writing of the Constitution.


7 posted on 08/22/2022 7:54:50 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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It’s a never-ending dumbing down process. Everyone suffers.

Here at my state college in Texas in the 90’s, I encountered numerous students in my tutoring role, mostly “people of color,” who could not manage the simplest math or English. I was trying to tutor them in algebra when they didn’t even know SIMPLE ARITHMETIC!!

How they made it out of High School ought to be a crime.


8 posted on 08/22/2022 7:55:41 AM PDT by fwdude (Racism is not dead, but it is on life support - kept alive by politicians….” — Thomas Sowell)
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Bump


9 posted on 08/22/2022 7:55:54 AM PDT by Mears
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Maybe they should have some honest admissions standards, and dont just admit anyone who has a pulse, but people that might actually develop and succeed in the environment?
Yeah right.


10 posted on 08/22/2022 7:56:02 AM PDT by TexasM1A
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It’s not that hard to figure out.

They show up utterly unprepared for College level work.

The public school systems socially promote kids and graduate kids who are not remotely academically prepared for college at all.

Then rather than reject students who clearly aren’t up to snuff they let them in and the wash out.

You want higher graduation rates for black students in College, return the public schools to actual institutions of learning and standards... rather than glorified baby sitting factories.

Its always funny how black (or other groups that tend to be lower socioeconomically) that come from good schools and private schools don’t seem to have this issue when they go to college.

Rather than pander and destroy these kids lives with the cancer that is lowered expectations, demand performance from them from day one and stop this nonsense that you just can’t do it because you are XXX or YYY so we will lower the standards to make you feel good... creating inflated values of self worth who utterly fail and don’t know how to handle it when they get out in the real world where people aren’t going to just go “oh well they are XXX so we have to just let them get by by doing less than expected.”


11 posted on 08/22/2022 7:56:17 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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So what the black colleges do, give them ‘separate, but equal, degrees’.


12 posted on 08/22/2022 7:56:19 AM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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But it wasn’t.

So what.


13 posted on 08/22/2022 7:56:28 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives. Leftists are genocidal. )
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To: skeeter

That is what 18 years of welfare is.


14 posted on 08/22/2022 7:57:08 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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Students, scholars and advocates say the reasons are myriad.

You betcha!

15 posted on 08/22/2022 7:57:35 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. )
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"The Cal State system graduates Black students at lower rates than other groups."

Well, there's an easy fix to that problem.

16 posted on 08/22/2022 7:58:40 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“May your neighbors respect you, trouble neglect you, angels protect you and heaven accept you”)
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The cancer that is “lower expectations”..

There is little doubt that inner city kids often are dealt some pretty damn bad hands in life, but letting them coast on lower expectations doesn’t help them in life at all.

Hey look, I graduated.. but I read at a 4th grade level and can’t do 6th grade level math.. because the system just accepts lower expectations... how is that helping them?


17 posted on 08/22/2022 7:59:05 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Well I have a (white) Cal State student currently (soph—classes start today) and he’s working toward his Computer Science degree (loves to code and loves his CS classes) but is struggling with the Calculus required for the BS degree. A lot of his difficulty I think is related to “online learning” and school closures he had in high school due to the pandemic. Essentially he only really mastered through Algebra 2/Trig in high school since everything shut down . He ended up only passing PreCalc after taking it online THREE times (final time at Cal State). He has one more semester of Calc to take (might have to take it twice) and then He’s home free. Calculus is a great hurdle.


18 posted on 08/22/2022 8:00:18 AM PDT by olivia3boys
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To: artichokegrower

With arbitrary entrance standards, what do colleges and universities expect, anyway??


19 posted on 08/22/2022 8:01:15 AM PDT by SMARTY (“Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.” Thomas Sowell)
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To: HamiltonJay

I generally agree with your post—but black intelligence is on a normal curve and (imho) it is only the top tenth or at most top fifth of that curve that can truly benefit from higher education.

That said—everyone benefits from rigorous educational standards—and failure if they cannot meet standards.

No public or education official has the courage to deliver the bad news.


20 posted on 08/22/2022 8:01:28 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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