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To: artichokegrower

It’s not that hard to figure out.

They show up utterly unprepared for College level work.

The public school systems socially promote kids and graduate kids who are not remotely academically prepared for college at all.

Then rather than reject students who clearly aren’t up to snuff they let them in and the wash out.

You want higher graduation rates for black students in College, return the public schools to actual institutions of learning and standards... rather than glorified baby sitting factories.

Its always funny how black (or other groups that tend to be lower socioeconomically) that come from good schools and private schools don’t seem to have this issue when they go to college.

Rather than pander and destroy these kids lives with the cancer that is lowered expectations, demand performance from them from day one and stop this nonsense that you just can’t do it because you are XXX or YYY so we will lower the standards to make you feel good... creating inflated values of self worth who utterly fail and don’t know how to handle it when they get out in the real world where people aren’t going to just go “oh well they are XXX so we have to just let them get by by doing less than expected.”


11 posted on 08/22/2022 7:56:17 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

I generally agree with your post—but black intelligence is on a normal curve and (imho) it is only the top tenth or at most top fifth of that curve that can truly benefit from higher education.

That said—everyone benefits from rigorous educational standards—and failure if they cannot meet standards.

No public or education official has the courage to deliver the bad news.


20 posted on 08/22/2022 8:01:28 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: HamiltonJay

Talked to an old friend this weekend.

He is trying to hire an employee.

People applying CAN NOT EVEN READ OR WRITE. Not the application-—not the labels on containers they use every day in the business.

He called it downright TOXIC. AND—They are demanding $15 an hour & BENEFITS.


49 posted on 08/22/2022 8:12:05 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: HamiltonJay

They have been raised on freebies from welfare-—this is a continuation of that, IMO.


52 posted on 08/22/2022 8:12:49 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: HamiltonJay

Its always funny how black (or other groups that tend to be lower socioeconomically) that come from good schools and private schools don’t seem to have this issue when they go to college.

Excellent observation.

I graduated in 63 from one of the best regarded high schools in the US. We had a smattering of lower groups, I know, I was one of them. No one passed anyone along. You either cut the grade, no excuses, or you stayed put. We had both college prep or trade programs. My folks ensured I was going through the college route. There were no shootings while I was there, no race demos, NADA of that crud.

Today same school not as well regarded. Woke for sure. Liberalism kills anything it touches. It chokes the life out of things under the banner of making things better for all. Simply put, it works for those in charge, for the rest not so much.


55 posted on 08/22/2022 8:14:44 AM PDT by Mouton (The enemy of the people is the media )
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To: HamiltonJay

Most any academically competent black male is going to have his pick of scholarships and schools these days. That pulls a lot of them above their academic weight and they run into trouble when they are going to schools they should not be at.


66 posted on 08/22/2022 8:21:30 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: HamiltonJay
The public school systems socially promote kids and graduate kids who are not remotely academically prepared for college at all. Then rather than reject students who clearly aren’t up to snuff they let them in and the wash out.

This low expectation stuff is cruel to black students. Cruelest to the capable smart black kids who have to deal with other races snickering about black kid's 'degrees'. That's horrible. Black students should be treated the same as students of all other races. Have the same standards and the same respect for their achievements...

At every level.

130 posted on 08/22/2022 12:34:14 PM PDT by GOPJ ( “...threat to democracy” is shorthand for ... "threat to Democrats". -- Daniel Greenfield)
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