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Visitors find century-old artifact at Little Bighorn Battlefield National Monument
Montana's News Leader ^ | August 11 2022 | Alina Hauter

Posted on 08/20/2022 1:17:13 PM PDT by euram

CROW AGENCY — At Little Bighorn Battlefield National Monument, artifacts from the past are popping up more frequently. Visitors found a Civil War General Service cuff button just last week.

The park memorializes the last stand the Lakota and Cheyenne tribes took against the U.S. Army’s 7th Calvary to preserve their way of life.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Montana
KEYWORDS: chat; custer; godsgravesglyphs; history; littlebighorn; localnews; nwosheepdoglol
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To: ansel12

I suppose you don’t know the full history of events.


41 posted on 08/20/2022 4:14:00 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: ansel12

They were also on an official army mission when they massacred everyone at Wounded Knee. Not one GI refused those unlawful orders.


42 posted on 08/20/2022 4:16:00 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: ansel12

It could be you have neither heart or a knowledge of history. Custer was a glory hound. He disobeyed orders to get in there in the first place.


43 posted on 08/20/2022 4:18:05 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: BlueLancer

Even Steve Bannon says “calvary” instead of “cavalry”.


44 posted on 08/20/2022 4:20:40 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Sometimes when you get to where you're supposed to be, it's too soon.)
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To: WMarshal

When I visited, I took the park bus tour. The guide was a middle-aged Indian woman who casually mentioned that she was Crow. Whether she lived on the reservation or not, I don’t know.

Being my usual bull in the china shop self, I naturally asked if she got any static from Sioux and Cheyenne visitors about the Crow having been allied with the U.S. As you probably know, Custer’s scouts were Crow.

She smiled and said, “All the time, but we don’t shed blood over it anymore, except on the basketball court.”

The battlefield IS on Crow land, so if I wanted to be fussy about it, the 7th Cavalry was assisting the Crow in repelling a hostile raid.


45 posted on 08/20/2022 4:22:37 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: sphinx

The older Northern Cheyenne are no fans of the Crow. Their favorite saying is “as ugly as a Crow.” Needless to say, the Northern Cheyenne are a good looking people.


46 posted on 08/20/2022 4:33:46 PM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: South Dakota

Wounded Knee also comes to mind.


47 posted on 08/20/2022 4:35:23 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: WMarshal

Custer and the Union Army, fresh from the Civil War depredation of the South, moved on to the tribes.


48 posted on 08/20/2022 4:41:51 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: ansel12
We are talking about the Custer group, not everyone in the area.

If you meant on Custer Hill, then you should have said that, instead of "Unlike the no surviving American troops at Little Big Horn". You were so busy being wrapped up in a pious attitude, and admonishing fellow FReepers, you misspoke, and now you are trying to redefine what you said to save face.

49 posted on 08/20/2022 5:45:10 PM PDT by Turbo Pig ('To close with and destroy the enemy")
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To: WMarshal

While they had some admirable qualities, the plains Indians (why don’t you call them native americans?) were a stone age people and modernity was advancing. They were in no position to stop it, it would inevitably consume them. It has always been that way.


50 posted on 08/20/2022 5:45:37 PM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: GingisK

I have both, but the left has done such an incredible job, that their version of history and hatred of the Americans has become the norm, and arguing against it has become more difficult every decade to the point that it is like facing a wall now, even here.


51 posted on 08/20/2022 5:45:52 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: WMarshal

Relative of Custer here. Your paks relatives slaughtered the 7th but according to Sittig Bull, on his authority, they lost the war winning the battle. Slaughter and horrendous acts abound Thursday Ohio from 1780s to about 1815.

Ft. Recovery Ohio is the first sight of Indians wiping out 600 soldiers, 400 volunteers and nearby 300 camp folders. At my Grandmother’s farm I had collected 7 guide on irons, 3 soldiers under the barn, 200+ arrow heads, buttons, flintlock. Grandpa was an Indian and we fed the bones of 3 soldiers and two horse’s to the dogs when I was 7. Dad beat my ass.


52 posted on 08/20/2022 5:47:34 PM PDT by Jumper ( )
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To: Bonemaker

Fire water killed more Indians than the U. S. Calvary.


53 posted on 08/20/2022 5:47:46 PM PDT by 2Dreamin
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To: Turbo Pig

No, I merely thought we were talking about Custer’s group and their brutal massacre, reread your post and look at who is being the nasty, pious one, that was pretty preachy and hostile.


54 posted on 08/20/2022 5:49:48 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: MileHi

I grew up calling them Plains Indians and I will die calling them Plains Indians. The fact that their people have been in the America’s for 30,000 plus years is understood and I don’t feel the need to kowtow to any PC bullshit from lefty Karens- you included.


55 posted on 08/20/2022 6:10:11 PM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: ansel12
It doesn't take "the left" to inform readers of history to know the the Battle of Little Big Horn occurred in the first place because the US government lied to the Indians, deprived them of decent land, failed to provided promised food and blankets, and so on. This was done to them on a continuous basis. The Massacre at Wounded Knee was an atrocity by most any standards. Those Americans of the 1880s are no more my concern now than the Indians of that time, so I think my view of those incidents can be made objectively and without malice. I am not even slightly proud of the soldiers in that story any more than I am for the people who sent them there. They thought of themselves as good Christians, but were savages themselves.

As far as your notions that some leftist schools brought me this take on the matter, let me set you straight. I learned about that battle and the indecencies leading up to it while living in Colorado in the 1950s. Hatred for the reds was on-going then as it is now. Even though schools sang the praises of Custer back in those days, I immediately saw through it all and recognized the man for what he was. Learning about the tit-for-tat exchanges of cruelty between whites and reds was a real put-off for me. It is best to stay decoupled from it emotionally because the hatreds on both sides were well deserved; and, no place for pride toward either side.

56 posted on 08/20/2022 6:10:12 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Jumper

Awhile ago there was a thread on the logic of not killing all of the enemy, taking no prisoners, and/or torturing POWs. I don’t remember all of the reasons why it isn’t a good idea, but 1) the enemy will fight harder and not surrender and 2) they will do the same to you.

Of course then the question becomes “who started the terrible behavior first?”

I know that I was shocked to hear about American troops in the Pacific killing the Japs that did surrender. I don’t think the Japs were inclined to surrender in the first place, but the American guys said “If we took them prisoner - what were we going to do with them?” I don’t know how prevalent that was.

I was also surprised reading an account of American medics in a German concentration camp. It was after they were liberated, and word from the Jews came that perhaps 20 Germans were posing as prisoners as they hadn’t been able to flee in time before the Allies took the camp over.

The medics lined up the Germans and executed them. A just punishment; I was just surprised that it was medics that fired the shots. Although I guess it shouldn’t have come as a surprise.


57 posted on 08/20/2022 6:13:49 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: GingisK

Wow, I feel like I’m at Berkeley or one of the Indian activist’s meetings.


58 posted on 08/20/2022 6:14:51 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: FLT-bird

Gen Grant was responding to his electorate. He was not keen on killing Indians—but relented to force them to mostly worthless reservations. Rather than being angry, I am sympathetic to all participants. Corrupt US Indian reps had as much to do with this as the broken agreements repeated over and over. Sometimes the natives were just savage, as were the people in the army that sometimes massacred the innocent.

The 7th was, from my reading, rather unprepared. Little training, many unable to speak english. A hodgepodge of participants.

Many lessons, mostly unlearned that reappear frequently. Just this life that is our curse from time to time.


59 posted on 08/20/2022 6:16:59 PM PDT by whistleduck
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To: WMarshal
The fact that their people have been in the America’s for 30,000 plus years is understood

Maybe, but so what?

PC bullshit from lefty Karens- you included.

Lefty? How about you KMA, jerkoff. I tried to be civil.

60 posted on 08/20/2022 6:23:42 PM PDT by MileHi ((Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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