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Former federal attorney suggests Trump is guilty because he invoked 5th Amendment rights. The backlash is bipartisan.
The Blaze ^ | August 10, 2022 | Chris Enloe

Posted on 08/11/2022 2:51:07 AM PDT by gattaca

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To: gattaca

It’s anarchy now. No 5th. No 4th No 1st. No 2nd, nearly. Soon we’ll be quartering FBI and soldiers.

The Marxists have shredded and abandoned the Constitutions of the Republic.


41 posted on 08/11/2022 4:37:24 AM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: cdcdawg
This was the @sshole who was the lead attorney for the House impeachment committee while also appearing as an “expert witness” before the committee. That’s like having the prosecutor call himself as a witness in a criminal case.

You couldn’t make this comical sh!t up.

42 posted on 08/11/2022 4:44:33 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: KevinB

I understand that a lawyer cannot knowingly misrepresent anything in court. But we all know that lawyers are paid to be “artful”. I’m saying that being “artful” ought to be a crime. Which is a bit subjective, but it should still be a constant worry for any lawyer.

I think of the Clintons and the people representing the Clintons. Sex isn’t sex. Is isn’t Is. There are a thousand ways that lawyers lie in court without lying in court. It’s the game they all play.

To be concrete: A lawyer should represent a murderer as best they can. But the lawyer’s first word to his client should be: “If you confess to me, I am obligated to tell the court.” That is not how it’s currently done, but I think it should be. All lawyers should serve justice and not their client or the government. Find the truth, say the truth. That isn’t currently their job description. Which is why they lie all the time.


43 posted on 08/11/2022 4:48:05 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. It's "whatever".)
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To: gattaca
Birds of a feather flock together....

Goldman and Shifty Shiff.....


44 posted on 08/11/2022 4:50:09 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: Alberta's Child

That exactly who he is. I’m surprised that he’s not already in the Brandon Administration.


45 posted on 08/11/2022 4:52:45 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Hoes mad! LOL! )
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To: gattaca

Trump invoked the 5th to avoid a trumped up charge of perjury and trial before a kangaroo court. Just as Roger Stone and Scooter Libby should have done.


46 posted on 08/11/2022 4:54:12 AM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: gattaca

“If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

Used be everyone of these pukes but this is different.(sarc)


47 posted on 08/11/2022 4:54:37 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: FlyingEagle
... Soon we’ll be quartering FBI ...

I'm all for that, as long as we can include the DOJ and draw them first.

(Just kidding folks, just kidding)

48 posted on 08/11/2022 5:00:39 AM PDT by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: caww
(From Goldmans web site - he's running completely on stopping Trump!)

"Republicans across the country are scheming to disenfranchise voters and find backdoor ways to overturn the will of the people in the next presidential election. This is a five-alarm fire that too many Democrats in Washington are treating as a tiny, distant flame. Donald Trump and the Republican party he controls are not only trying to take away our rights but are tearing down the foundations of democracy itself. We need new voices in Congress with the strength, experience, and courage to stop them." —Daniel Goldman


49 posted on 08/11/2022 5:04:07 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Here's an article on this issue you may find interesting. It's a bit California-centric, but it's consistent with the rules in both states in which I'm admitted.

My Client Confessed Privately: What Should I Do?

As conservatives, we have (or should have) a visceral distrust of government - and as we're seeing now, for very good reason. We need to have in place a mechanism that forces the government to make its case. The Constitution does a very good job of providing that mechanism.

50 posted on 08/11/2022 5:09:49 AM PDT by KevinB (''...and to the Banana Republic for which it stands ...")
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To: KevinB
Thanks for the article.

Small excerpt:

As your client’s attorney, you are under no legal obligation to share his admission of guilt with anyone else. You are still bound by attorney-client privilege and must maintain the character of this respected tradition.

That's the current situation. As I understand it, a lawyer can get in trouble for deviating from this.

I think we need to change those rules and expectations and need to go in the opposite direction: I wish lawyers were obligated to relay such information directly to the judge. Currently that is not the case.

I wish lawyers were required to serve justice but unfortunately, they serve their client.

51 posted on 08/11/2022 5:14:57 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. It's "whatever".)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

P4L


52 posted on 08/11/2022 5:23:38 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: gattaca

THIS is the problem


53 posted on 08/11/2022 5:27:33 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: gattaca

Members of the BAR are officers of the court and cannot occupy a seat in any extrajudicial agency without violating the separation of powers.

IIRC, before the War Between the States, there was a Constitutional amendment proposed that would have denied members of the bar positions in extrajudicial governmental situations.


54 posted on 08/11/2022 5:43:13 AM PDT by Westbrook (The Democrats are wizards at two things: Finding votes and losing evidence.)
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To: gattaca

Damned energy efficient houses nowadays don’t let the natural gas slip out to a safe level anymore 😜


55 posted on 08/11/2022 5:46:14 AM PDT by Married with Children
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Lois Lerner was not on trial in a court of law at the time

Neither is Mr. Trump......yet.
This invocation of the 5th was about a deposition, not a session on the stand.

56 posted on 08/11/2022 5:50:26 AM PDT by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........Then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them.)
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To: Lockbox

What did the prosecutor say? Daniel Goldman, who served as an assistant U.S. attorney in the southern district of New York for 10 years, suggested Trump is relaying guilt because he invoked his constitutionally protected rights.

And he is right. This is a civil case, not criminal. Different ballgame. You can infer guilt when someone takes the fifth.


57 posted on 08/11/2022 5:53:16 AM PDT by sunny bonobo
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To: Liz

You cannot impugn a votive when the fifth is invoked.by

Yes you can in a civil case.


58 posted on 08/11/2022 5:54:11 AM PDT by sunny bonobo
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To: 11th_VA

Either that, or you do a “Hillary Clinton” playing-dumb routine and answer that you don’t remember or you don’t recall.


59 posted on 08/11/2022 6:02:44 AM PDT by Ebenezer ("Be strong and of good courage.")
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To: gattaca

5th amendment bypass............. I don’t recall, I’m being confused with someone else, I wasn’t informed, I have no knowledge of it, I was baking cookies with my daughters, and the missing documents were only correspondence with my chiropractor.


60 posted on 08/11/2022 6:07:15 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (In politicians we get what we deserve, usually the best that money can buy, guaranteed.)
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