Posted on 08/03/2022 5:11:47 AM PDT by Morgana
The pro-life movement suffered a defeat in Kansas on Tuesday when the state overwhelmingly voted to uphold abortion “rights.”
The vote in Kansas on Tuesday centered on whether or not the state would remove abortion rights protections in the State Constitution, potentially paving the way for “state lawmakers to pass far-reaching abortion restrictions, or even to pursue a ban,” according to the New York Times.
With 76 percent reporting, the “No” votes to keep abortion rights in place beat the “Yes” votes by double digits – 62.2 percent versus 37.7 percent as of this writing. Both NBC News and the New York Times have projected “No” as the referendum winner.
Abortion activists and Democrat lawmakers celebrated the victory.
“This is huge: abortion rights were on the ballot for the first time since Roe, and the people of Kansas voted to preserve access,” tweeted Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA). “I’m grateful down to my toes for everyone who helped stop this dangerous ballot measure in its tracks.”
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
~909,000 Voted, based on votes in the governor's primary the make up of the electorate would have been
451,000 Republicans 277,000 Democrats 181,000 Independents
To get to the 60% result, that would mean ~40% of Republicans would have had to voted for abortion.
Dems are overperforming with Suburban women, but they are vastly underperforming with Black Men and Hispanics, a great realignment is taking place.
I can understand why voters were confused. Some might vote NO because they did not agree with the exceptions. In order to understand it one would have to insert the proposed text into the current version of the state constitution. Lawmakers have to do this all the time. Voters less often. I suspect that voters will see a similar resolution in the future, but it needs more explanation, probably radio/TV ads..
http://www.kslegislature.org/li/b2021_22/measures/documents/hcr5003_00_0000.pdf
1. I did say that my 1% figure was decades old. That implies it's old information, perhaps not current information.
2. Has any state outlawed abortion in the case of protecting the life of the mother? I know Alabama did as a temporary legal measure to get their pro-life law to SCOTUS (and the legal-ease they tried to avoid was trying to make the case for protecting the life of the baby while at the same time saying the baby is sometimes expendable in hardship cases). Thus, now that Roe is overturned, Alabama's legislature is already working on changing the law to allow hardship case abortions. I believe all of the pro-life states are doing the same. Thus, it's a moot point to argue the "But what about" situations -- it's already in the works to allow those abortions in the near future.
Our Constitution has a specific amendment banning slavery. I think the Supreme Court was saying that our Constitution is silent on abortion, so it should be up to the states.
Damn Redlegs still murdering and a looting.
Lots of people who vote conservative on some issues but not others.
female people?
Regarding your two points:
1) The reference I used was written post SCOTUS decision in 2022. Given all the talk about the abortion issue, I am surprised there was no list of reasons statistics on the first Google page. I may go back and look at other pages.
2) I suspect some of the old laws that states are resurrecting after the SCOTUS decision may lack protection for the life of mothers. I wonder how many women will die or become permanently sterile before the issues are resolved. It would have been really helpful if there had been a waiting period of a number of months to allow laws to be revised to protect both women and fetuses.
Regarding the CONSTITUTION, I wonder if some well crafted abortion rights Amendment will be crafted and eventually be made part of our Constitution. This will certainly be happening in a number of states. The SLAVERY issue was eventually codified in this manner.
Abortions should not be legal after the point of quickening... about 15 weeks.
Many of these College Edecated women would gladly take the Mark.
Abortions should not be legal after the point of quickening... about 15 weeks.
Or before the point of quickening.
FDR won by a landslide repeatedly so? Btw Wilkie was almost as lib as FDR was and tried to form a party with him. This is a blatant lie neocon GOPe types like you and Hannity and co have spread as a stupid canard that democrats have always been the social libs and GOPe social conservatives which is total nonsense. Dixiecrats were every bit more socially and foreign policy conservative than yankee republicans ever manifested with few exceptions and Jacksonian democrats have nothing in common with modern crazy democrats and so on and here you go to counter your clumsy attempt to brand southern whites as liberals based on FDR elections …study 1964 ….we are infinitely more conservatives like most northern whites but that irks you doesn’t it you just can't handle the truth that whites you virtue signal over as racist are better than you
We do but I fear even if we voted in Reagan landslide numbers for Trump if it would offset gen x y and millennial white libs
Who would have ever imagined boomers would now be the last redoubt
And I’m 65 in three months and a dead center of the boomers
We are dying off fast
Whites as you get younger get more liberal
Even in the south white college educated kids tend to be more indoctrinated
They’ve ditched the accent and accept a lot of social engineering
Rural whites less so
Girls even more so
The girls have just inundated in middle and upper middle class
Being a mom and depending on a decent husband is feared as much as herpes
Even some moms here crow how they have taught their daughter not to depend on a man
I suppose there’s must have sucked
I feel for women they have been horribly misled since the 70s
I never thought I’d say it since I was zotted here for two years for opposing amnesty but we better hope the brown invasion is indeed turned off by trannies and late term abortion and open borders etc and comes our way
It’s like our only salvation unless we kill dem vote fraud once and for all but the GOPe lacks the stomach for it obviously
It’s unfolding in our favor though some
Lib Latinos tend to be in hard left states like kali and colorado and New Mexico and Illinois and the northeast
More conservative Latinos in Texas and Florida oddly and scattered about Dixie
The big question states over this are Nevada and Arizona
Trump also attracted black male voters
Orientals and actual Asians appear to be a lost cause mostly cause they drink yellow victimhood I guess
Vietnamese somewhat the exception
I’m well versed in Latino culture and speak the languages and was married to one but outside those fleeing totalitarians I’m not sure honestly
The siren call to claim victimhood and blame others and feel morally superior to your “oppressor “ and get paid too?
It’s a heady lure
I am a 100 percent America Firster. Sorry, the South voted overwhelmingly for Denocrats until 1964. Then the great switch happened.
Funny that you mention Jackson. He was 110 percent pro-Union. So we’re many Southerners.
I do agree that Hispanics and Black Men are shifting sharply Right. The America First Ahenda is a winner with them.
The one demographic we need to go after is the Desi (Indian) one.
I live in a fairly upscale neighborhood here in suburban DFW, and it’s mostly families from India here. They are professionals with young children who are fairly Americanized. My daughter is dating a man whose parents came from Goa (which is why he’s actually a Christian and not Hindu).
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