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Synagogue sues Florida over abortion limits, a possible template for future challenges
France24 ^ | June 28, 2022

Posted on 06/28/2022 6:52:09 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

A lawsuit filed on June 10 by a synagogue in Florida has challenged plans to limit abortions in the state on the grounds that it would violate religious rights and therefore be unconstitutional. The Jewish faith holds the right to an abortion to be inviolable.

The Florida bill is set to lower the maximum threshold for abortions from 24 weeks down to 15 weeks from July 1, with exceptions in instances where the medical procedure could save the life or prevent serious injury to the mother. It offers no exceptions for victims of incest, rape or human trafficking.

But these restrictions would infringe upon Jewish women’s right to abortion as guaranteed by their faith and are thus incompatible with the Florida constitution’s right to privacy and religious freedom, says the lawsuit, which was brought by Rabbi Barry Silver on behalf of the roughly 150 members of Congregation L’Dor Va-Dor in Palm Beach County.

“If a foetus poses a threat to the health or emotional well-being of its mother, at any stage of gestation up until birth, Jewish law not only entitles but requires the mother to abort the pregnancy and protect herself,” the suit argues.

Broadly speaking, Jewish law stipulates that life begins at birth and that until that point the mother’s life is prioritised. “So, in order to protect the health of the pregnant person, abortion is permissible and sometimes mandated,” said Samira Mehta, associate professor of women and gender as well as Jewish studies at the University of Colorado at Boulder.

The definition of what counts as a health threat varies between Jewish communities, with the congregation of L’Dor Va-Dor in Florida at the liberal end of the spectrum. But, Mehta said, there is agreement on the principle that abortion is a right.

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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The Jewish faith holds the right to an abortion to be inviolable.

False assertion by a false rabbi; abortion is an inviolable element of Judaism.

The Thirteen Principles of Jewish Faith
61 posted on 06/28/2022 9:39:35 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/332555/jewish/Maimonides-13-Principles-of-Faith.htm


62 posted on 06/28/2022 9:40:48 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: Wonder Warthog

“Since he is omniscient, he sees all POSSIBLE futures. We choose which one(s) become reality.”

So he doesn’t know what I’m going to do, thus he’s not omniscient. You can’t have both.

“It is also the basis for how one should be treated under law, so in reality, it lasts one’s entire life.”

That maybe a good policy but it’s not a “natural right” . It doesn’t automatically spring out of nature. In fact in a natural setting (one without human laws) the opposite is more often true. People don’t treat each other equally. And tribal leaders don’t treat all tribe members the same.


63 posted on 06/28/2022 9:42:37 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: af_vet_1981

abortion is not even mentioned as an element of Judaism, much less an inviolable part; perhaps those worshiping Moloch hold it inviolable but that is NOT Judaism.


64 posted on 06/28/2022 9:48:09 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Having an abortion is not a religious ritual.


65 posted on 06/28/2022 10:08:21 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: delchiante

This thread highlights why John Adams stated:
“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Adams/99-02-02-3102

If you want to define away what that means have at it. No nation can last very long esp. at the hand of lost purpose...


66 posted on 06/28/2022 10:43:18 AM PDT by trfree98 (Xiden: Please allow me to introduce myself I'm a man of wealth and taste... )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“The Jewish faith holds the right to an abortion to be inviolable.”

Well, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob does not.


67 posted on 06/28/2022 10:55:34 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: trfree98

We’ve most certainly morphed into morally corrupt, but not without Divine Providence..

13 colonies wasn’t an accident.
50 states isn’t an accident..

It’s the pattern at the start of Christ’s government (Him +12)
And its 50 states representing growth of His Church, at 50 , Pentecost ..

So goes America, so goes the Church.
So goes the Church, so goes America..


68 posted on 06/28/2022 11:11:43 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: aquila48
"That maybe a good policy but it’s not a “natural right” . It doesn’t automatically spring out of nature. "

The Founding Fathers as well as God say it is. That's good enough for me.

69 posted on 06/28/2022 12:56:05 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Best outcome of non-Torah Jews trying this sh*t is Orthodox Jews will (hopefully loudly) announce to all that this isn’t in accord with Jewish Halakhah, Jewish Torah-based law. Maybe those self-obsessed Jews will come to the realization that they are NOT following the Torah.
I have even more respect for President Reagan, because he had Orthodox Jews advising him on Halachah.
To read that article that said Pres Reagan had Orthodox Jewish advisors, check keyword Torah.


70 posted on 06/28/2022 6:30:27 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“If a foetus poses a threat to the health or emotional well-being of its mother, at any stage of gestation up until birth, Jewish law not only entitles but requires the mother to abort the pregnancy

What a travesty.

71 posted on 06/28/2022 6:32:53 PM PDT by Jim Noble (I’ve stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains)
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To: Daveinyork
That circumstance is if the life, not the health, of the pregnant woman is endangered by carrying the pregnancy to term.

"I'm so depressed. If I don'r get an abortion I will kill myself"

Yes, or no?

72 posted on 06/28/2022 6:36:26 PM PDT by Jim Noble (I’ve stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains)
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To: Jim Noble
“ “If a foetus poses a threat to the health or emotional well-being of its mother, at any stage of gestation up until birth, Jewish law not only entitles but requires the mother to abort the pregnancy”

Emphasis mine.

Isn’t Jewish law based on the Old Testament of the Bible? I have read it entirely and do not recall anything like this. Did I miss it?

73 posted on 06/28/2022 6:41:30 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Freee-dame

I’m not a Jew, but I did live in Brooklyn for quite a while.

“Jewish law” is kind if a misnomer. Orthodox Jews follow, or try to follow, 613 commandments, mostly in Exodus and Leviticus. Disputes among religious Jews have been settled by religious courts for millenia, and to the extent that the decisions of rabbinical courts have been preserved, rabbis spend their lifetimes studying them and applying them.

Those decisions form a sort of common law, but of course there are conflicts and variances among them, with no “Supreme Court” to settle them.

So there’s written (Torah) law, applied law (rabbinic courts) and (in some countries) civil laws that apply to Jews. All that together could reasonably be called “Jewish law”.


74 posted on 06/28/2022 6:50:05 PM PDT by Jim Noble (I’ve stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains)
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To: Jim Noble

You’re going to kill yourself?


75 posted on 06/29/2022 7:05:35 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: af_vet_1981

Actually, according to Jacob Neusner, abortion is forbidden in the Talmud, unless the life, not the health, of the mother is endangered by delivering the baby, in which case abortion is required. A life is not to be traded for a life.


76 posted on 06/29/2022 7:10:15 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Jim Noble

You have forgotten the Talmud, which has governed Orthodox Judaism for at least fifteen hundred years.


77 posted on 06/29/2022 7:12:07 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork

“You’re going to kill yourself?”

Is that message for me?

Why?


78 posted on 06/29/2022 7:21:10 AM PDT by Jim Noble (I’ve stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains)
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To: Altura Ct.

Ancient Isreal had a problem with many believing that the right to sacrifice their children to molech or Chemosh was also inviolable. The prophets declared that the Lord thought otherwise and thus the Lord punished Israel for the crimes of its people.

The liberal Jews pushing this notion that Judaism supports unfettered abortions need to rethink this notion.


79 posted on 06/29/2022 7:26:46 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (A horrible historic indictment: Biden Democrats plunging the world into war to hide their crimes!)
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To: Jim Noble

Because you are depressed and you can’t get an abortion.


80 posted on 06/29/2022 8:14:11 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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