Posted on 06/28/2022 6:52:09 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
A lawsuit filed on June 10 by a synagogue in Florida has challenged plans to limit abortions in the state on the grounds that it would violate religious rights and therefore be unconstitutional. The Jewish faith holds the right to an abortion to be inviolable.
The Florida bill is set to lower the maximum threshold for abortions from 24 weeks down to 15 weeks from July 1, with exceptions in instances where the medical procedure could save the life or prevent serious injury to the mother. It offers no exceptions for victims of incest, rape or human trafficking.
But these restrictions would infringe upon Jewish women’s right to abortion as guaranteed by their faith and are thus incompatible with the Florida constitution’s right to privacy and religious freedom, says the lawsuit, which was brought by Rabbi Barry Silver on behalf of the roughly 150 members of Congregation L’Dor Va-Dor in Palm Beach County.
“If a foetus poses a threat to the health or emotional well-being of its mother, at any stage of gestation up until birth, Jewish law not only entitles but requires the mother to abort the pregnancy and protect herself,” the suit argues.
Broadly speaking, Jewish law stipulates that life begins at birth and that until that point the mother’s life is prioritised. “So, in order to protect the health of the pregnant person, abortion is permissible and sometimes mandated,” said Samira Mehta, associate professor of women and gender as well as Jewish studies at the University of Colorado at Boulder.
The definition of what counts as a health threat varies between Jewish communities, with the congregation of L’Dor Va-Dor in Florida at the liberal end of the spectrum. But, Mehta said, there is agreement on the principle that abortion is a right.
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The logic behind the legal action:
If a religion, satanism or Islam, holds murder to be desirable....then our Constitution and laws would need to allow murder by those who practice that religion.
Makes sense?
Aztecs see Constitutional right for human sacrifice.
Mayan’s say they’re 100% behind the effort.
Kukulkan gotta eat.
I think the rabbi has found a way to pimp for an increase in attendees by demonstrating his liberal credibility.
> The Jewish faith holds the right to an abortion to be inviolable.
The only faith groups I know that promote child sacrifice are Satanic cults.
Jeremiah 19 comes to mind.
The Talmud permits abortion in one circumstance, in which case it is required, even on the Shabbat. That circumstance is if the life, not the health, of the pregnant woman is endangered by carrying the pregnancy to term. We do not trade a life for a life. Otherwise abortion is forbidden.
” . . . challenged plans to limit abortions in the state on the grounds that it would violate religious rights and therefore be unconstitutional.”
They chose the wrong state and the wrong time to make this argument.
With all due respect, some members of the Jewish faith have made some really bad decisions in the last couple of thousand years.
But, I could say the same about those of us in the Christian faith.
Won’t fly. If it would, most any previous, illegal, religious practice could claim the same privilege. Polygamy, slavery, genital mutilation, human sacrifice???
Separation of synagogue and state?
Brilliant argument!
I don't recall this being engraved on the tablets handed to Moses on Mount Sinai.
And let's not even get started on the insane nonsense which mudslums believe to be inviolable.
I grew up Jewish (before 1973) and I never heard of this doctrine.
There is a wide spectrum of beliefs about abortion in that community. It is not as clear cut as the orthodox (small “o”) Christian teachings.
Yeah and Islam requires the elimination of Jews, others can be enslaved or killed for not converting, but them Jews just need a killing. How about themz laws you idiots. Half of the Bible is written about and for the Jews and their perpetual rejection of God who chose them to be his people. What lost fools.
good point, however exercising a right cannot harm a 3rd party.
my right to swing my arm around ends at your nose.
No it doesn't. That claim is revisionism.
That’s what I thought. Thanks for clarifying.
“I’m curious, is there anything in the constitution that forbids murder, or are those just state and federal laws?”
I found the answer. There are only three crimes mentioned in the constitution - treason, piracy and counterfeiting.
https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/criminal-defense/which-3-crimes-are-in-the-us-constitution/
So, murder is not unconstitutional, but limiting religious freedom is. So strictly speaking, exercising your religious
beliefs of sacrificing virgins, or heathens, is protected by the constitution, and it trumps any state or federal laws that would forbid it.
The closer one looks at the constitution the more problematic things one finds. In places it’s overly broad and tolerant.
The one in the declaration that claims all men are created equal is also an obvious lie, a noble lie, but a lie nonetheless, and one that today is causing a lot of grief by lending legitimacy to the “equity” movement.
Don't concede the enemies lying terminology. Jewish law does *NOT* support abortion.
I studied this some years ago. In Jewish law, an abortion is only permitted if the child becomes a "pursuer." Which in the context is as if someone was chasing the woman to do her harm. In real terms this means that the baby has to become a threat to the mother's life.
Elective abortion are forbidden.
If that’s true that would mean that Jews would be forcing their religion on the citizens of Florida.
That being said : I don’t believe the premise . Abortion isn’t part of the Jewish faith, even if a lot of them support it.
Here’s everything you need to know about this “synagogue”. Instead of a typical “about” page, they have a “Bill of Rights” with about 20 platitudes. What is missing is any mention of G-d or the Torah. This is a completely secular institution. Consequently, I would not call it a Jewish synagogue but a Liberal Temple.
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