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US airlines like Delta and United are so desperate for pilots they are dropping some requirements and considering cutting training hours to get more pilots flying sooner
business insider via yahoo ^ | May 21, 2022 | Taylor Rains

Posted on 05/23/2022 10:29:01 AM PDT by RomanSoldier19

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To: qaz123

Hunter Harrison has been dead for 4-1/2 years so the bad guy at CSX must be somebody else.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Hunter_Harrison: “He died on December 16, 2017, two days after taking medical leave from CSX.”


41 posted on 05/23/2022 11:22:21 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't. )
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To: RomanSoldier19

Man did I call this in 2020 when they were downsizing staff .
I knew the demand would come back and they would have a staffing clusterBiden when demand picked up.
They were cutting staff that takes multiple years to train, for a temporary demand drop.
Dumb.
Should have figured out any way to keep them on the payroll through the slow times.


42 posted on 05/23/2022 11:23:06 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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To: RomanSoldier19

My friend is a big shot with the FAA, we are currently running about 14,000 pilots short every month, and it is going to get much worse since there are not enough Instructors to train new pilots. Spirit will put you in the left seat of an A320 with just 1500 hours under your belt


43 posted on 05/23/2022 11:23:34 AM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: qaz123

Another reason to add to my list of why I don’t want to do any air travel again.

America has become a non stop clown show.


44 posted on 05/23/2022 11:23:45 AM PDT by dforest (We have to put a stop to this now.)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Delta pilots had a picket line going recently.

They make $190K - $350K/year with benefits. I sure wish my eyesight hadn’t been crap since i was 12 years old! Flying would have beat the hell out of working for relative serf wages.


45 posted on 05/23/2022 11:25:04 AM PDT by utax
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To: qaz123

Someone I know (female) became a United pilot over 20 years ago and she is now a captain. She got in via affirmative action because she only had private civil aviation flying time and ratings - no military or corporate flying. The airlines have had pilot affirmative action for women and minorities for a long time - I’m not sure why this became such a front burner issue recently, with their HR people mouthing off about it as if it did not already exist.


46 posted on 05/23/2022 11:25:06 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: T-Bird45

And in that short time....March 2017 to his death, the man set about destroying the company as he did CN and CP. The crew he brought with him, that helped him tear apart other companies, continued his policies. So, he was able to do it from the grave, so to speak.

Interestingly, Hilal and Harrison shopped their MO to the other big railroads. They told them to pound salt up their a$$es.

NS, eventually tried to copy that management style. Now they’re sucking for employees as is CSX.


47 posted on 05/23/2022 11:26:32 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: dforest

Sad but perfect description.


48 posted on 05/23/2022 11:27:11 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Cecily

Is your friend smart? Hard working? Will she sue the company for millions if she feels she is being discriminated because of her skin color or sex or sexual identity? Or be honest enough to know that she failed a test because she didn’t study hard enough?

Your friend may have got in because United wanted to increase the number of women pilots, but she wasn’t hired to meet “modern day diversity, ESG, woke culture quotas”. The affirmative action of 20 years ago is like a picnic compared to what is being pushed today.


49 posted on 05/23/2022 11:32:05 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: Zathras
"They are learning that once you stab employees in the back, its unlikely they will ever trust you again."

You obviously have no clue how many time the airlines have stabbed their pilots in the back since deregulation.

50 posted on 05/23/2022 11:32:40 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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To: qaz123

“He started by blaming all of the employees for not working hard enough ....”

Remember the old buzz phrase, “We’re going to do more with less!”

No. You are going to do less with less.


51 posted on 05/23/2022 11:33:25 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: qaz123

Good point. That is true, the new AA is quite a different thing.


52 posted on 05/23/2022 11:35:03 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: RomanSoldier19

Gee Willis, what caused this “ shortage”

given that lots of folks are still not traveling


53 posted on 05/23/2022 11:35:10 AM PDT by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: JerryBlackwell

Indeed, the vax etc. airlines went political woke and lowered actual standards.

Total corruption.

Airlines got what is coming to them.


54 posted on 05/23/2022 11:35:30 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hates:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: JerryBlackwell

Indeed, the vax etc. airlines went political woke and lowered actual standards.

Total corruption.

Airlines got what is coming to them.


55 posted on 05/23/2022 11:35:31 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hates:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Surely there are more Muslims that will gladly take the jobs.


56 posted on 05/23/2022 11:36:29 AM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85 )
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To: RomanSoldier19

Black check
Female check
LBQGT check

You’re hired!

Remember those were the reasons the new press secretary was hired and it was a good thing!


57 posted on 05/23/2022 11:41:12 AM PDT by CodeJockey (Politicians are to America as oligarchs are to Russia. )
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To: T-Bird45

One of the problems is that some airlines (I think United was one, I’m not sure about Delta) have declared that their pilots have to be 50% “minority” by a certain date.

I don’t know the date, and I don’t know if “minority” includes women as well. But that’s sure not going to make recruiting any easier...or flying any safer.

Airlines, please recruit based on skills and not on race or sex.


58 posted on 05/23/2022 11:45:29 AM PDT by livius
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To: RomanSoldier19

Overlook my lousy eyesight at 52 years old and I’m there!


59 posted on 05/23/2022 11:46:50 AM PDT by jughandle
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To: RomanSoldier19

My kid is currently a flight instructor building up his hours to be able to work for the airlines. Already hired by a Delta regional airline as soon as he finishes his 1500 hours. He’ll be the at the ripe old age of 24 when he starts flying for the airlines.

But trust me, if his Xbox skills are any indication, he will be an awesome pilot.


60 posted on 05/23/2022 11:49:59 AM PDT by toast
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