Do you realize how foolish your argument is? You are using logic right out of Slate and the Washington Post and every leftist Democrat.
Posted on 05/17/2022 9:48:01 AM PDT by Eleutheria5
Hang around and enjoy their polishing the Azov nazi turds
Hi.
“In your opinion, is an E. Luttwak approach more appropriate to strategic objectives, attrition, battle space management, logistics, personnel etc? Or is the approach outlined in FM 21-76 the most one can hope to achieve?”
I have no clue.
I’m trying to figure out why Vlad and the oligarchs thought this adventure would bring more riches and fame. Who knows, Vlad may think he’s Peter the Great?
Imho so far, Ivan has stepped on his dick (i.e. strategic objectives, combined arms tactics, battle space management, logistics and propaganda/media).
(Don’t quote me on that).
5.56mm
damn, never heard of it...
thx
Do you have rocks in your head?
The DPR, who alleged genocide, have posted their own civilian casualty figures for 2014 to 2019. Their figures - THEIRS - debunk their own genocide claim. Not the West’s figures. Not Ukraine’s. THEIR OWN.
And what’s even worse is, the subsequent three years of mortalities didn’t even hit 30 a year. The DPR don’t dispute this at all.
And of those 75, about half died from landmines laid years before, previously unexploded bombs,
Less. Than. Thirty. Civilians. A. Year. Is. Not. Evidence. Of. Nazi. Genocide.
But still you believe that, in 2021, Donbass was either experiencing or about to experience a genocide committed by Azov Nazis?
Based on what? Nothing more than a false flag flown in 2014-2015 that was refloated in 2021 which you bought despite overwhelming evidence that it was bollocks.
There was no more chance of a Nazi genocide in 2021 or 2022 than there was a chance of Saddam’s WMDs in Iraq being deployable at 45 minute’s notice.
Wake up, dumbass.
You were triggered by the endless repetition of a flat out lie, all based on what the Rashist DPR told the FSB.
Don’t want to take the West’s word for it? Fine. Here’s one of the DPR admitting it. In 2014. Alongside admitting that Russians “on holiday” were in his team.
The DPR is a bunch of utter crooks. Always was. They are Rashist flip side of the Azov Nazi coin. They’ve been on the make for ten years. They are Ultranationalists, set up by Yanukovych and paid by the Kremlin.
Pavel Gubarev, another figure within the DPR, the one Russia has been paying since 2014, is a nazi. With Nazis on his payroll. And the Kremlin went to his aid to denazify Donbass, with Wagner Nazis and assorted Rashists “on holiday”. Hmm.
Just like that arsehole running Kherson. (The ex journalist Ultranationalist who was so loathed even by his fellow Russians he failed to even get 2% of their vote in 2020, but the Kremlin put him in charge anyway). His bandits came in for the victory parade and ate now being handed the flats left unoccupied after their legitimate owners/occupiers fled.
Can’t you join the dots? This was never about denazification; it was about mercs making sure the right kind of Rashists, Islamists and neo Nazis - the ones fighting on the Russian side - triumphed over the ones that were fighting for Ukraine.
The DOR Nazis and Rashists did’t represent ordinary Russians any more than the Nazi Azov batallion represented ordinary Ukrainians. They were both in it for themselves.
And you’ll start to see the truth of that in the next few weeks as Russia begins to distance itself from both the DPR and the Kherson ‘civilian’ administrators.
You’re really indulging in gymnastics if you actually think that Biden, Globalists, Nazis, the Daleks, the Tywin Lannister and Professor Moriarty engineered a situation where wily old genius Putin and all his generals and TV stations and newspapers were reluctantly drawn in to stop a genocide of, er, 75 people, by a bunch of fine upstanding heroes in the DPR - one guy being an ‘out’ Nazi himself and the other who’s ALREADY explained how he baited the FSB.
Or maybe... Maybe the DPR is part of the Deep State Globalist Soros Schwab goon squad too?
In which case ... Oh no! Poor Putin, he’s clearly the only real victim here. /sarc
Do you really think the Nazis are about swastikas and brown shirts? It’s just a fashion statement? It’s a lousy fashion statement, btw. But the substance of being a Nazi is to believe in the destiny of your race to become supermen, so long as you appropriate the lands and property of inferior races, and of course kill them all or at least enslave them.
Whatever you may say about the Azov Battalion, they have not erected ghettos and herded all Russo-phones into them, they have not erected concentration camps for slave laborers to work until they either die or are exterminated. They do not make Russo-phones wear badges identifying them as such.
Now they are homicidal, and they are brutal. But so are Cossacks, Ton Ton Macouts, Mujahedoon, the KKK, the ancient Vikings, child armies in Africa. They get riled up and commit horrific crimes, but “Nazis” coolly and with pre-meditation create horrifically criminal systems of extermination and apropriation. They are also socialistic, only national socialists.
What the Azov Battalion is, in the final analysis, is a militia deeply enmeshed in a border war that’s been going on for eight years, which President Poroshenko openly encouraged. Their adversaries in this border war are the separatist DPR, who have about the same brutal temperament. This is Slav on Slav crime, and they are both glorified Cossack Battalions who have forgotten how to ride a horse and have AK-47s instead of scimitars.
So get off your high horse, and see this for what it is. No Nazis, except under CatherPutin’s bed giving him nightmares that Mother Russia must sooth her out of. If anyone is a “Nazi,” it is CatherPutin the Grate, with his dreams of restoring her empire to its former grandeur, the KGBitch.
As for Dumbass and Mariupol, I could care less about them. Until this whole thing blew up, I was unaware that it existed. But it’s relevant to the Ukraine conflict, which is relevant to maintaining the peace of Europe and the world.
If you are in doubt as to who is in the moral right here, consider that you have a KGB man in the Kremlin, that he’s been in power for twenty years, and he has a long history of grabbing back bits and pieces of former Soviet Republics by supporting “separatist” forces, some of them real, some of them made up. He’s also massively, world-classively corrupt, as evidenced by his giant yacht with the golden toilet.
On the other side, you have a Jewish comedian and actor with a hit TV show (3 seasons, now on Netflix) that somehow ended up as POTUKE. Trump watched him carefully, and decided he was honest. He may have been at the time. He may not be now. Whatever. This is Eastern Europe. Corruption is as ubiquitous as Vodka and wife beating.
CatherPutin the Grate is for sure up to no good. He must be stopped, and VZ the TV clown, whose first language was Russian, is the man stopping him, although he couldn’t prevent Mariupol from falling. Oh, well. Churchill couldn’t keep the Germans out of the Channel Islands, either, or evict them ‘til the end of the war. You win some, you lose some. You keep on fighting.
“ Let’s see them hold it”
Doesn’t matter. We have already moved on to white supremacy, Covid and womens rights.
And therefore seeing President Trump and Sen. Cruz stroll out onto an Othala Rune must have immediately brought the Waffen SS and their atrocities to your mind.
Perhaps that is the consequence of looking for Nazi symbolism everywhere, or maybe you are just a fervent reader of the Washington Post.
For me, I despise actual Nazis, and tyrants who act like them by invading peaceful neighboring countries. I don't get bothered by people like the Marines posing with an SS flag, or whoever designed the CPAC stage, or for all we know the woman in your picture just because they happen to have some symbol used in the past by an awful government.
See # 225. I am not impressed, for the reasons stated therein.
Thanks for sharing the reality of the situation which I think far too few people posting here understand.
You need more practice with your English, in English tense has to be consistent, unlike in some other languages.
Do you realize how foolish your argument is? You are using logic right out of Slate and the Washington Post and every leftist Democrat.
Pavel Gubarev isn't a nazi and this isn't 2014 anymore. I'm not sure Gubarev even lives in DPR anymore...he's certainly not part of the DPR political structure so your point is moot.
Nonsense.
Supposedly there were about 1200 to 2000 members of Azov before the invasion started. As of now the Russians have managed to get at least ten of their soldiers killed for every member of Azov. And that is in addition to all the damage they have done to their military, their economy, and their relationships to the rest of the world.
No European nation will continue to depend on Russian energy resources in the future which is a disaster for the future of Russia.
Right now their imports from friendly or neutral nations like China have fallen by more than 50%, which indicates a near collapse of their economy.
Russia really is destroying itself.
Then you have been watching the wrong channels, reading the wrong papers, ignoring the video evidence, and not understanding the encroachment of NATO upon the borders of Russia. Nonsense!
In a catacomb par excellence the soviets planned and built.
Is it Russian propaganda that the Ukes were driven out of Mariupol?
I see a lot of stuff in the Daily Mail and elsewhere about Russia’s losses. What do you suppose Ukraine’s losses are? Hint: they’re worse. That shouldn’t come as a surprise. Russia has air superiority.
Thought the Ukes were winning?
Winning is surviving, resisting and fightingfor your freedom with everything you have (including, yes, propaganda). Winning is not living on your knees, not allowing yourself to be dragged in chains back under the sphere of influence of a malevolent dictatorship.
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Couldn’t agree more.
What all have you done against the malevolent dictatorship of Biden & Co??
Russia could have killed them all in 5 seconds with a tactical nuke. But that would generate bad PR.
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