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US Navy scraps NINE anti-submarine warships that cost $3.2 billion to make - some under three years old
FOR DAILYMAIL.COM ^ | 13 May 2022 | ADAM SOLOMONS

Posted on 05/13/2022 8:03:41 AM PDT by dennisw

-Because their technology is already obsolete Navy will decommission its entire fleet of Freedom-class combat warships Four of the $3.2bn fleet set for scrap heap were commissioned in 2019 and 2020

Anti-submarine system 'did not work out technically', naval operations chief said Ships 'incredibly expensive and [lack] the capabilities we expected': Rep. Smith Added: 'They're not ready to do anything... When they are, they still break down'

USS St Louis, launched in August 2020, will serve just three years of 25-year life Scrappings will save $391 million as US Navy plans new shipbuilding program Crews at Naval Station Mayport, Florida will have to wait for new ships to arrive Chinese Navy is set to count 460 warships by 2030, becoming world's largest

The US Navy will scrap nine warships worth $3.2 billion - despite some being just three years old - because their technology is already obsolete.

Anti-submarine systems on the Freedom-class combat warships, four of which were commissioned in 2019 and 2020, 'did not work out technically', the Navy's operations chief said.

Admiral Michael Gilday asked Congress to sign off on the scrapping, which will save the Navy $391 million.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: govtwaste; navy; taxdollarsatwork; usn
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To: dennisw

Take that, Putin!!!


21 posted on 05/13/2022 8:12:20 AM PDT by BobL (Putin isn't sending gays into our schools to groom my children, but anti-Putin people are)
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To: dennisw

Oh and they have a combining gear problem that limits them to 18 knots top speed.


22 posted on 05/13/2022 8:12:39 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: Gen.Blather

Any idea who that admiral was?


23 posted on 05/13/2022 8:13:37 AM PDT by MaskedMan (The )
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To: The Klingon
Should have be the Coasties new Cutter from the beginning

Good read:

https://www.maritime-executive.com/editorials/op-ed-a-derated-littoral-combat-ship-would-make-an-ideal-uscg-cutter

24 posted on 05/13/2022 8:13:55 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: allendale

Elon....Where are you??


25 posted on 05/13/2022 8:14:25 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Yo-Yo
Transfer them to the Coasties.

Their hulls crack and their engines have serious design flaws that cause frequent breakdowns. Why would the Coast Guard want them?

26 posted on 05/13/2022 8:15:08 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Thunder90
And yes the Russians are also building their navy at a rapid pace. It’s why they don’t really care about the losses in the Black Sea, they can significantly outproduce any losses caused by the Ukrainians.

That sounds interesting. What is your source?

The Russian ships have been a considerable disappointment.

27 posted on 05/13/2022 8:15:19 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: dennisw

After seeing what missiles and drones carrying missiles have done to Russian ships (those that float), a real question needs to be answered:

Are all surface ships for any navy just floating targets and deadly for the sailors on those ships?


28 posted on 05/13/2022 8:17:05 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (JUST LEAVE US ALONE!...Be whatever, you think you are!!!! On YOUR Time and Dime, NOT OURS!)
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To: dennisw

LCS was a sham from the get-go. The whole program should have been canceled years, if not decades, ago.


29 posted on 05/13/2022 8:17:37 AM PDT by JHL
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To: Red Badger

“They could sell them and make more money..............”

I doubt it.

Isn’t this the ships that had large amounts of aluminum in the structure.

If so, they have a huge history of fires and catastrophic failures.

Worse than having no ship. At least the maintenance ends.


30 posted on 05/13/2022 8:17:58 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: dennisw

$40 Billion to Ukraine...

Our US NAVY can’t get better boats.

We are on the slide here, and the Brandon administration can’t fix anything. Praying we get some Trump or DeSantis sanity soon. This is getting tragic.


31 posted on 05/13/2022 8:18:33 AM PDT by King_Corey (Buy SILVER and GOLD to hedge against the coming market destruction of FIAT currency)
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To: dennisw

The Navy was warned that the ships weren’t worth it before they were built.


32 posted on 05/13/2022 8:18:46 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: dennisw

China the largest Navy in the world.

$40 billion to the Ukraine...

We scrap ships under three years old.

Hey, we’re saving $380 million (whatever it was...)

Yeah but we spent tens of billions... (such a deal)


33 posted on 05/13/2022 8:21:08 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: Red Badger
"They could sell them and make more money.............."

That's what I was thinking. There are probably lots of countries that would like to have those for shoreline defense and wouldn't need to track high end submarines in open seas.

What's the docking fees on one of those? What's the minimum number of people to sail it?

34 posted on 05/13/2022 8:22:44 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DoodleDawg
Their hulls crack and their engines have serious design flaws that cause frequent breakdowns. Why would the Coast Guard want them?

The cracking hull issue affects the Independence class LCS. This story is about the Freedom class LCS. It doesn't help that there were two simultaneous LCS programs, both of which failed.

The Freedom Class does have a problem combining the diesel and gas generator powerplants for full speed, but that is addressed in the article I posted a few posts above this one.

The Coast Guard doesn't need the high dash speed from the Gas Generator powerplant, and could remove them entirely, solving the combining gearbox issue.

The Coast Guard has done so in the past with another class of hand-me-down Navy ship that had powerplant combining issues. The rest of the Freedom Class would make an excellent Coast Guard cutter, and the Coast Guard is currently embarking on a mult-decade recapitalization of their fleet. Taking these ships from the Navy would save the taxpayers money, and would move up the timeline that the Coast Guard could retire their older cutters.

35 posted on 05/13/2022 8:23:33 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: dennisw

That’s our tax dollars not at work. Since these ships do not work, do we get our money back?


36 posted on 05/13/2022 8:24:01 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Scratch a leftist and you'll find a fascist )
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To: DoodleDawg

Their hulls crack and their engines have serious design flaws that cause frequent breakdowns. Why would the Coast Guard want them?

To keep our congressits happy with kickbacks.


37 posted on 05/13/2022 8:25:15 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (JUST LEAVE US ALONE!...Be whatever, you think you are!!!! On YOUR Time and Dime, NOT OURS!)
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To: dennisw

The government boondoggle wouldn’t be as hard to believe if these worthless pieces of overpriced scrap iron had names like the USS Obama, USS O’Biden, USS Harris, USS Pelosi, and USS Schumer.


38 posted on 05/13/2022 8:25:20 AM PDT by DaBroasta
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To: dennisw

Have they tried repurposing them?


39 posted on 05/13/2022 8:26:57 AM PDT by alternatives? (The only reason to have an army is to defend your borders.)
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To: MaskedMan

“Any idea who that admiral was?”

No idea.


40 posted on 05/13/2022 8:27:06 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry.)
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