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Psychologists found a “striking” difference in intelligence after examining twins raised apart in South Korea and the United States
PsyPost ^ | 05-07-2022 | Eric W. Dolan

Posted on 05/09/2022 5:13:45 AM PDT by Salman

A new study of monozygotic twins raised apart in South Korea and the United States provides unique insight into how genetic, cultural, and environmental factors influence human development. The new research has been published in the scientific journal Personality and Individual Differences.

“I have studied identical twins reared apart for many years. They pose a simple, yet elegant experiment for disentangling genetic and environmental influences on human traits. This case was unique in that the twins were raised in different countries,” said researcher Nancy L. Segal, a professor and director of the Twin Studies Center at California State University in Fullerton.

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The researchers found “striking” differences in cognitive abilities. The twin raised in South Korea scored considerably higher on intelligence tests related to perceptual reasoning and processing speed, with an overall IQ difference of 16 points.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: iq; monozygotictwins
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To: Eleutheria5

Have to wonder if the incidence of drug use among separated identical twins is different in South Korea v the United States. Also are identical twins separated in Korea for social or cultural reasons? In the US if twins or any children are separated from their biological parents, there is a good chance the parents were not upstanding citizens and these children were exposed in utero to a wide variety of drugs and other substances. There is always more to the story.


21 posted on 05/09/2022 5:34:58 AM PDT by allendale
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To: Salman

The kid raised in the US isn’t sure whether they/them are a boy or a girl?


22 posted on 05/09/2022 5:37:41 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Salman
A spread of 16 IQ points?

Sorry, very hard to believe that is all nurture.

USA GDP Per Capita - $76,000

South Korea GDP Per Capita - $46,000

North Korea GDP Per Capita - $1,800

I wonder what the IQ spread would be if the other twin was raised in North Korea?

23 posted on 05/09/2022 5:37:42 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Salman
Not only did the twins experience different cultures growing up, they also were raised in very different family environments. The twin who remained in South Korea was raised in a more supportive and cohesive family atmosphere. The twin who was adopted by the U.S. couple, in contrast, reported a stricter, more religiously-oriented environment that had higher levels of family conflict.

The researchers found “striking” differences in cognitive abilities. The twin raised in South Korea scored considerably higher on intelligence tests related to perceptual reasoning and processing speed, with an overall IQ difference of 16 points.

24 posted on 05/09/2022 5:38:21 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: Salman

Definitely counts, but not as much as nature.


25 posted on 05/09/2022 5:38:22 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Salman

A sample set of one. Ok.

Since the results seem to be an indictment of U.S. television, popular culture, and public schools, I am willing to waive my usual caveats about small sample sizes and endorse these findings without reservation.

As a matter of public policy, the public schools are the place to begin because they are fully under government control.

The second key observation is that Tiger Moms are good if you want to raise smart, high achieving kids. Every family should have a Tiger Mom.


26 posted on 05/09/2022 5:38:36 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: newfreep

“No mention of where in the US & which school district the lost twin was raised”

Doesn’t matter. I taught college for a few years and found it never mattered. So many kids bragged about their “charter” schools and all those special programs, yet, not a single kid impressed me. Not a single one could write a paper or perform college level Algebra while trying to take a Calculus class. Their work ethic was that of a 10 year old, and if they did poorly they felt it was the professor’s fault.

A ‘C’ today was yesterday’s ‘F’. If anyone is hiring, make sure the idiot has at least a 3.85 GPA for any degree in the past 10 years or they really didn’t learn much. Grade inflation is out of control. No one is allowed to flunk.


27 posted on 05/09/2022 5:39:25 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: sphinx
Tiger Mom’s are great if you want kids who are rote learners who don’t know how to innovate.

I have no desire to see our western, Euro-descended country turn into East Asia.

28 posted on 05/09/2022 5:41:14 AM PDT by Clemenza (In event of a Civil War, a face diaper is a great way to spot the enemy)
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To: Travis McGee

Since the elites want every man, woman, and child working, they don’t want those three months for summer off. It makes parents want to stay home with their kids and not work. Not to mention, children used to work in this country up until about 75 years ago when the school systems pushed to make school mandatory.


29 posted on 05/09/2022 5:44:41 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: Travis McGee
That is compensated somewhat by longer vacations, namely:
  1. Six weeks in the summer (late July & August)
  2. Three weeks at year end (late December, early January)
  3. Two weeks at term end (late March).

    That's the way it was in Japan, where I raised my kids and sent them to the local public school except for the oldest who was left-handed and we sent to an international school run by the Catholics.

    The biggest difference is what goes on in the classroom. My middle daughter, who was in about the middle of the pack on math (as reported by the Japan equivalent of our Iowa basics tests) was suddenly in the 94th percentile when we moved to one of the better school districts in Pennsylvania.

    They actually got better American history instruction in the Japan public school system than they did here. OTOH, they didn't have time to learn about sexual deviancy being normal and normalcy being deviant, LOL!


30 posted on 05/09/2022 5:46:26 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Rlsau1

Little to do with school and more to do with home.


31 posted on 05/09/2022 5:47:02 AM PDT by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: Salman

SJW’s closing the IQ gap in America have discovered that dumbing down is easier than smartening up. Politicians prefer it too.


32 posted on 05/09/2022 5:48:51 AM PDT by Spok (Winston, how many fingers am I holding up?)
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To: Salman

It would be interesting to know the parents IQ but does seem to conform to other evidence that low-income children, at least in the US, have fewer opportunities for their genetic potential to flourish. If I recall correctly the heritability of intelligence among poor children has been put somewhere around 25% vs 60-70 from wealthy families. For poor children in the South Korea as well (?), the family environment seems to matter quite a bit.


33 posted on 05/09/2022 5:49:43 AM PDT by erlayman
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To: Williams

My sister is at the end of her career as a junior high and high school math teacher. In her 45 years, she has seen the USA go from #1 globally in math results to #38. That happened in less than two generations!

But we are #1 in self esteem.


34 posted on 05/09/2022 5:50:46 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (Instead of criminalizing guns, we need to criminalize criminals)
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To: CodeToad

I spent a few years (late 80s to early 90s) as an adjunct professor in the Business School of our university.

Clearly, it was obvious which students came from a solid HS program and which came from failed programs - their speech was a VERY clear indicator.


35 posted on 05/09/2022 5:51:06 AM PDT by newfreep (“Leftism, under all of its brand names, is a severe, violent & evil mental disorder.”)
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To: Eleutheria5

Nah ..... cuz then they’ll miss out on the Kardashians or something.


36 posted on 05/09/2022 5:51:21 AM PDT by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Eleutheria5
It doesn't mean less stupider.

The twin raised in South Korea scored considerably higher on intelligence tests related to perceptual reasoning and processing speed, with an overall IQ difference of 16 points.

...the twin raised in the United States had more individualistic values, while the twin raised in South Korea had more collectivist values.

However, the twins ... also had a similar level of satisfaction with their job, even though their occupations were quite different — a government administrator and a cook.

Assuming the cook is the American, I'll take an individualist cook with lower IQ than a bright, collectivist bureaucrat any day of the year.

37 posted on 05/09/2022 5:52:52 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: Eleutheria5

Well, see the latest article I posted,

As for women pissing while standing up, there are many devices that allow women to do that.


38 posted on 05/09/2022 5:53:52 AM PDT by algore
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To: allendale

Try reading the article


39 posted on 05/09/2022 5:54:45 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives)
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To: Clemenza

Kids need to learn how to work hard and how to think for themselves.

Tiger Moms get the first part right.

Parents who can do both are doing it correctly.


40 posted on 05/09/2022 5:57:36 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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