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States sue the U.S. Postal Service over its decision to buy gas-powered trucks
NPR ^ | April 29, 2022

Posted on 04/30/2022 8:54:45 AM PDT by lowbridge

California and 15 states that want the U.S. Postal Service to electrify its mail delivery vehicles are suing to halt purchases of thousands of gas-powered trucks as the agency modernizes its delivery fleet.

Three separate lawsuits, filed Thursday by the states and environmental groups in New York and California, ask judges to order a more thorough environmental review before the Postal Service moves forward with the next-generation delivery vehicle program.

Plaintiffs contend that purchases of fossil fuel-powered delivery vehicles will cause environmental harm for decades to come. The lawsuits could further delay the Postal Service's efforts to replace the ubiquitous delivery trucks that went into service between 1987 and 1994.

"Louis DeJoy's gas-guzzling fleet guarantees decades of pollution with every postcard and package," said Scott Hochberg, an attorney with the Center for Biological Diversity, referring to the postmaster general.

Attorneys general from 16 states — 14 of which have Democratic governors — sued in San Francisco. A separate lawsuit by the Center for Biological Diversity, Earthjustice, CleanAirNow KC and Sierra Club was filed in the same venue. Another was filed by the Natural Resources Defense Council and United Auto Workers in New York.

Advocates say the environmental review behind the planned purchase was flawed

All three of them target the environmental review underpinning the Postal Service's planned purchase of up to 165,000 next-generation delivery vehicles over the next decade.

California Attorney General Rob Bonta said it's key to stop the process before it's too late.

"Once this purchase goes through, we'll be stuck with more than 100,000 new gas-guzzling vehicles on neighborhood streets, serving homes across our state and across the country, for the next 30 years. There won't be a reset button," he said.

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To: lowbridge
Wasn't there an article here on FR about a European country having to stop using their electric buses because of fire?
21 posted on 04/30/2022 9:37:36 AM PDT by asinclair (What doesn't kill you makes you stronger)
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To: CIB-173RDABN
Whenever a government agency is sued you have to watch how hard they defend themselves. If they cave or put up a weak defense then it is most likely a conspiracy between the two parties. The agency might want to do something but does not want the decision to be theirs. So they get sued, the court decides and the bureaucrats can say it was not us.

Excellent point.

22 posted on 04/30/2022 9:37:41 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: asinclair

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4058867/posts


23 posted on 04/30/2022 9:38:48 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: asinclair

Paris suspends electric bus fleet after fires


24 posted on 04/30/2022 9:39:00 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: lowbridge

I guess we can always return to having The Pony Express to carry the mail. It would be a great job for young men and women who enjoy riding horses.


25 posted on 04/30/2022 9:41:42 AM PDT by CFW
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They could save quazillions if they stop delivering me junk. I have to toss out about 50 lbs of junk mail a year. All of my bills have been electronic since the early 2000s. I would say on an average year I get approximately 5 pieces of mail that I need to open.


26 posted on 04/30/2022 9:44:49 AM PDT by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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To: lowbridge

“Once this purchase goes through, we’ll be stuck with more than 100,000 new gas-guzzling vehicles on neighborhood streets, serving homes across our state and across the country, for the next 30 years. There won’t be a reset button,” he said.

But once You buy electric vehicles they will need to be replaced in less than a year. Environmentalists are so stupid.


27 posted on 04/30/2022 9:48:41 AM PDT by wbslws
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To: ridesthemiles

“COLD WEATHER——SNOW-—RURAL DELIVERY LONG DISTANCES”

Sounds like your worried about mail delivery to your area my friend. 😉


28 posted on 04/30/2022 9:50:22 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: lowbridge

i notice that the 15 states didn’t seek a injunction against the USPS to prohibit the use of their CURRENT fleet of “gas-guzzling” trucks ... maybe the USPS should oblige them anyway ...


29 posted on 04/30/2022 9:53:49 AM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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To: Wonder Warthog
Simple solution...split the purchase. Buy enough electrics for the states that want’em and gas vehicles for the rest.

The USPS plan was to buy a mixed fleet with around 10% being EVs. That's a pretty good start on supplying the eco-nazi areas.

30 posted on 04/30/2022 10:04:24 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; BraveMan; cardinal4; ...
Attorneys general from 16 states — 14 of which have Democratic governors — sued in San Francisco. A separate lawsuit by the Center for Biological Diversity, Earthjustice, CleanAirNow KC and Sierra Club was filed in the same venue. Another was filed by the Natural Resources Defense Council and United Auto Workers in New York.

31 posted on 04/30/2022 10:05:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: lowbridge
All this to deliver junk mail.

Get a frickin' backbone America. The USPS is a dinosaur and needs to go extinct.

I suggest that we stick to a textualist interpretation of the US Constitution. The US Constitution empowers Congress "To establish Post Offices and post Roads."

Okay, roads and post offices - plural. So we need two of each.
Post Office #1 - Thoroughfare, WY.
Post Office #2 - North Pole, AK (kids need somewhere to send their letters to Santa)
Post Road #1 - MT State Road 19
Post Road #2 - ND State Road 1806

The links are worth a look.

Just a reminder, in case you forgot: John Kasich's father was a mailman.

32 posted on 04/30/2022 10:08:40 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Scratch a leftist and you'll find a fascist )
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To: lowbridge

Somebody’s palms were greased to get this to happen.


33 posted on 04/30/2022 10:12:01 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Your bat-excrement crazy mental illness does not impose an obligation upon me to deny reality.)
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To: Sacajaweau
Then there’s the cold up here in the north. School buses wouldn’t start. LOL

So cold the DEF fluid froze and battery wouldn't crank the engine over....

Interstate highways closed. Hotels all booked out

Truck stops running out of food. Happened to Spokeshave in a former existence delivering trucks around the country.

Wearing my quilted overalls inside my arctic grade sleeping bag.

34 posted on 04/30/2022 10:15:48 AM PDT by SpokeshaveReturns (Spokeshave Returns)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Why doesn't the USPS just digitize all mail...
Your unworkable solution is several notches too extreme.

I'd not want my private letter read by fedgov scanners, the data which is then hackable and my property then in the hands of anyone but the addressee.

35 posted on 04/30/2022 10:16:39 AM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: lowbridge

Very simple solution……have the states supply the vehicles.


36 posted on 04/30/2022 10:29:40 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: lowbridge

Back in the 70’s the post office experimented with electric vehicles from a company called CommutaCar:

https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/commuter-vehicles-postal-comuta-van/

They were prone to bursting into flames. That probably still leaves a bad taste in their collective mouths.


37 posted on 04/30/2022 10:34:51 AM PDT by beef (Let’s go Baizuo!)
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To: lowbridge

No standing.🤔


38 posted on 04/30/2022 10:35:46 AM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: lowbridge; All
"States sue the U.S. Postal Service over its decision to buy gas-powered trucks"

Are federal government contracts for EVs in the context of politically correct global warming alarmism just another front-end for unaccountable federal spending, a part of such spending allegedly winding up in the campaign funding of desperate Democrats?

And why are Post Service-untested EVs the perfect, one-size-fits-all solution for alleged climate problems?

In fact, global warming alarmists still haven't explained why greenhouse gasses like methane and CO2 fail to hold down the heat during a midday solar eclipse of an otherwise warm sunny day.

Solar eclipse 2017: How much did the temperature change during the eclipse? (non-FR; 8.22.17)

Also, is it any surprise that nighttime temperatures typically keep dropping in various places until a bit after sunrise?

Next, consider the following Post Service-related thread from earlier this year. The link is followed by the contents of a post in that thread questioning why the Post Office hasn't at least experimented with no left turns like UPS successfully did.

Biden holds up $11.3 billion Postal Service truck contract because of climate change (2.2.22)

To begin with, state-of-the-art electric vehicle (EV) technology is still in pioneering stage in my non-expert imo.

I-95 Ice Storm Overnight Traffic Jam – Imagine you were Stuck in an EV (1.5.22)

But that's not going to stop desperate Democrats from spending somebody else's money to buy a fleet of EVs.

Next, noting that I'm still inclined to believe that that politically correct global warming is a government-manufactured crisis, please consider the following way that one vehicle-dependent company is using less energy.

It's interesting that GE News in February 2017 questioned why USPS trucks don't experiment with avoiding left turns like UPS successfully did.

"UPS have designed their vehicle routing software to eliminate as many left-hand turns as possible (in countries with right-hand traffic). Typically, only 10 percent of the turns are left turns. As a result, the company claims it uses 10m gallons less fuel, emits 20,000 tons less carbon dioxide and delivers 350,000 more packages every year. The efficiency of planning routes with its navigation software this way has even helped the firm cut the number of trucks it uses by 1,100, bringing down the company’s total distance travelled by 28.5 million miles – despite the longer routes." —Why don't USPS trucks experiment with not turning left, at least where turning left typically involves waiting for oncoming traffic, like UPS does?"

Probably at least some EVs would benefit from this approach to saving energy as much as gas-powered vehicles do in many areas.

Note that avoiding left turns would probably effectively "change" residential and business address for some drivers, the same idea as the way that wholesalers like Costco are always moving things around in warehouse so that customers gradually get a better idea of Costco's inventory.

Corrections, insights welcome.

39 posted on 04/30/2022 10:50:20 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: lowbridge

Surprised commie radio isn’t on the list given our current state government bastards.


40 posted on 04/30/2022 11:25:18 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (Annie Savoy : The world is made for people who aren't cursed with self awareness. )
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