Posted on 03/11/2022 12:59:28 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27
President Joe Biden warned Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday that any attack against NATO could spark World War III.
The president spoke about the conflict at a House Democrat retreat in Philadelphia, vowing again to defend “every inch” of NATO territory from Putin and the Russians.
(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
Yep, it is just how Americans got manipulated into WWI.
Warn him about how you beat up Corn Pop, Big Guy!
Ding! Ding! Ding! Give the man a cigar!
Seems pretty easy to fix. Get on the phone with Putin. Ask him he wants with respect to the Ukraine. If he says I do not want them to join NATO, say, that under the circumstances that seems to be reasonable, however you must remove all your forces from the Ukraine immediately. We will draft a treaty that states that they cannot join NATO but they are not to be attacked by Russia either. They will become a neutral country similar to Switzerland. Oligarchs and evil POSs like Joe Biden can hide their money in the Ukraine, Grand Caymans and Switzerland.
Yep
This is a limited conflict and no one really wants it to go big, although everyone will ruffle their feathers because they want to win.
Belarus is intentionally on the side lines, but not really because they are 100% lockstep with the Russians. The Russians are launching operations into Ukraine from there.
If there really were a big conflict, Belarus would be with the Russians, not even a question or doubt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_Security_Treaty_Organization
In this conflict, by keeping Belarus out of the fight (the political cross-hairs), Belarus will win big because in the economic fallout that will ensue (we practice economic warfare and it's our standard MO), Belarus is a proxy of Russia through which they have a backdoor to procure critical technology despite sanctions (Belarus isn't sanctioned).
The Russians are not stupid like we make them out as. Nor is Putin a “crazy madman.” Actually the Russian are very predictable, the issue here was spelled out, and what the Russians asked for is actually reasonable. We set the conditions for this war by giving Ukraine our blessing for NATO membership. This war is Biden's doing in October 2021 - December 2021. But because the MSM loves Biden, corporate America and the EU want Ukraine an EU and NATO members, and you have this lasting legacy of hatred and distrust for the Russians, Biden will never be blamed for this mess.
The Russians know how we operate, and they knew the first thing we'll do is to freeze assets in the West, politically isolate them... bla bla bla. They began to immunize themselves from these measures years ago:
https://www.dentons.com/en/insights/alerts/2013/august/1/russia-prohibits-its-state-officials-ownership-of-foreign-accounts-and-financial-instruments
Likewise, the Russians put in an effort to ensure that critical tech they need is sourced from more friendly locations (China), domestically produced, or open domain with many sources: https://fossbytes.com/russia-is-planning-to-move-all-computers-to-linux-operating-system/
We will definitely have an impact on them, because we took this further than they probably expected, but the level of impact we will have is far less than what some in the West will lead you to believe. They already knew this would happen and they took measures to mitigate the damage. Belarus (IMHO) is part of this mitigation strategy.
Finally, this isolation will be far from airtight because many nations will flat our refuse to play along with our games. All NATO/EU nations plus our allies in Asia will play, but nations like Brazil, Mexico, and others already said "no thank you."
You can't blame them either. They both are very dependent on Russian wheat and fertilizer. It's easy to call for sanctions but if you're a leader and suddenly there are food shortages in 4 months, that's not good.
Put yourself in the shoes of some of these nations we are asking to go against Russia. They are getting their “food supply” in part from them! https://www.world-grain.com/articles/11473-russian-ambassador-eyes-more-grain-exports-to-mexico 400,000 tons of wheat to Mexico. Something like 20%-25% of the wheat in Egypt... The point is that these sanction may be airtight among our allies in Western Europe (until the next winter comes and they need Russian gas more again), but these sanctions will be far from airtight outside of the club of EU/NATO nations.
Put a cork in it, Joe.
you missed a few ....things...the ukrnian gov are nazis...proud nazis...soros installed this clown who is acting president...rot child soros banking severs are in ukrain ...it is the #1 human trafficing country in the world...change of gov there is overdue.....nazis fighting comunists...well imo let them fight .
Americans live in a bubble. Hollywood, Disney, crappy MSM that tells them nothing, few ever leave the country, most have no connection to their roots abroad, and public education institutionalizes them to be good factory workers with a political/social liberal spin... They do not know anything about the world around them, not even South of their own border and with whom they do major trade do they have a clue about the culture, history, geography, economics, politics...
If you bring this up, even though true, you lose them. Meaning, it is out of scope for what they are able to accept as reality right now.
I know that the government of Ukraine outright sponsors far right national socialist groups. I know about the youth programs... I know about the history, i.e. connection starting in 1939... I know how the SS recruited in Ukraine and had entire divisions... and I know about the many examples of troops running around with Nazi symbols today... I get it. However, for people that do not know any of this, if you start mentioning Nazi's you'll get a laugh, disbelief, and you'll be discounted as a cook.
This is an uphill struggle as far as the “truth” is concerned:
Biden is a Democrat and the MSM will be lockstep behind him. The MSM in the US is an unofficial public relations agency for the Democrat party. Democrats fire freedom missiles and drop democracy bombs. When they get us into a conflict the press coverage is on fire with higher moral rationalizations, pretending it's about human rights, freedom, democracy, bla bla bla. Clinton: in the Balkans, Somalia. Obama in Syria...
It does not matter that the US is breaking its promises to the Russians made in 1994 (not even talked about or mentioned). It does not matter that US involvement is not defensive. It does not matter that Ukraine is not a NATO member but a former Soviet Republic. It does not matter what Ukraine does with Russian ethnic minorities, or the fact that they are not really a democracy, or that they don't really have free speech, rule of law (arresting journalists, shutting down radio stations), or that the Russian security concerns have merit (never mentioned in the US media).
Think about this: the Russians basically let Ukraine do whatever it wanted. If you really want to get down to it, this conflict is about Ukraine and the US/EU wanting to put Ukraine into their sphere of influence. Ukraine was able to trade with whomever they wanted, people could come and go, they could have their elections, move money, Western business could invest... but the issue to Russia ***ALWAYS*** has been that they want the former Soviet States to be buffer states and neutral. They do not want US or NATO troops, bases, fighters, missile defense, bombers, missiles on their border. Are they really that “crazy?”
What this conflict is really about: in October 2021, the US basically gave Ukraine the green light for NATO membership, in complete disregard of what we promised and know is a major issue for the Russians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A—57cFU5zM (this was Biden in 1997)
US corporate interests are 100% behind this. The EU and US want Ukraine to be theirs. It's a diamond in the rough (30% industrial economy, high tech, educated population, 41,000,000 people, fertile ground and a major world food supplier).
This is an economic conflict - 100%, that simple. Big business does not want to invest in a place where you don't have certain securities, certain promises made. If Ukraine is in NATO and the EU, Western mega corporations have safe and free reign, which is what they want. Again, big tech and big corporate media will back this, but now you also have the donors to US Congress pushing for this (US congress is for sale to the highest bidder and they represent corporate interests, not even the US people). US and EU business which really own the political apparatus are in support of Ukraine's NATO and EU membership (i.e. where Soros and all the others come in).
Western media is highly censored and in reality centralized. The Internet is dead. It's no longer the free place it once was in the 90s. Today it's controlled by big tech and governments that have created China like firewalls, bulk collection programs, where the Internet is so commercialized that no matter what you search for, your results will include an Amazon result in the top 10... The people in the US only get one side of the story and the economic interests want this. You have to jump through hoops to even get access to hear/see/read the other (Russian) side. The point is, using the Nazi argument, while at least in part accurate (this is a gray or sliding scale argument of partial truth) will not help your cause, IMHO. You would first have to have media sensetize the audience/public to this topic and they won't do that.
Putin has a history of murder, but Bidet has a history of dementia....
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The US (via the CIA) has done plenty of murder.
The CIA has the Mockingbird Media to cover up its wetwork...
Nobody will ever convince me, or likely a majority of the American people, that is a good idea.
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That’s because it isn’t unless your a Lincoln Project poof who desperately wants to see any culture that isn’t pro LGBTQ+ crushed.
This idiot in the White House so needs to shut up and eat his pudding.
In order to resolve the Ukraine/Russia mess and prevent WWIII, impeach Biden and reinstall Trump. Not doing so, we will all have a very heavy price to pay. Stolen elections have more than consequences — they can result in events that we will all regret forever.
As long as Biden is in the White House, America is playing with a fire that can consume it. At no time in our history has this nation been in so much peril that its very existence is at stake.
You forgot to mention the corruption factor of Biden & son.
AOC the former bar maid.
>>He does not need to take the rest of us with him,<<
But that is exactly the whole idea.
Biden is using the Hitler playbook.
>>Well, except for Pilsner Urquell.<<
The good brewers from Pilsen all migrated to Texas and created their own brewery.
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